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  1. 1. What wedge loft combos are you using?

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I am using a set I just bought....They are De la Cruz Wolfram wedges.....I love them. I have been deadly with the 56 my last few rounds and the lob has been super for cut shots.......52 56 60...

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i just started doing my greenside chipping with the PW and the results have been fantastic! i was using a 9 iron before and wasn't getting the in air "pop" i wanted. If i want the ball to roll, depepnding on the distance, i'll use a 9, 7 or 5 but for close to the hole, i'm going to use my PW or 52º from now on

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So can you make a 54 check up on short chip shots?

In my Grom Stand Bag:

Driver: Launcher 400
Hybrid: Idea a30s Boxer 2i
Irons: MP-60's 4-PWWedge: Vokey Oil Can Spin Milled 56.12Wedge: Vokey Oil Can Spin Milled 60.4Putter: I-Series Anser 4Ball: Prov1


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I have two new Cleveland CG14 wedges 52* and 58* but two dots. I use the 52* for any shot between 100 and 50 yards, and the 58* for shots inside 50 yards that I have to hit high into the air or get a lot of spin from. I really like these wedges and the loft combo, it works very well for me.
In the blue and tan grom Bag:

Driver r7 460 10.5*
Fairway Woods '07 Burner 15* and 18*
Irons 4-PW r7 XDWedges 47*, 52*, 58* CG14,Putter TiffanyBall One Tour D

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51*GW-100-115 Yards

56*SW-85-100 Yards

60*LW-1-80 Yards

All those numbers are from perfect lies. Anything in deep rough or awful lie automatically calls for one more club.

Titleist 905T Accra SC75 M4 Shaft

Nike SQ 4W Accra T70 M4 Shaft
HB001 17* Hybrid with Mitsubishi Diamana Thump X Stiff Flex
Baffler Pro 20* Accra Axiv 105 Tour Hybrid Shaft

Taylor Made 24* Burner Accra Axiv 105 Tour Hybrid Shaft

Mizuno MP-32 5-PW Black Oxide Finish Project X 6.0 Shafts

Vokey 52* Oil Can Finish TTDG S400 Shaft

Cleveland 588 60* TTDG S400 Shaft

Rife Bimini Blade Putter

 

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Callway X14 Pro

Pitching wedge

54 degree sand wedge

58 degree lob wedge
909D Comp 9.5* (house MATRIX OZIK XCON-6)
Burner Superfast 3 & 5 woods (house MATRIX OZIK XCON-4.8)
G15 Hybrid 23* (AWT shaft)
G5 5 iron-PW-46*, UW-50*, SW-54 & LW-58 (AWT shaft)
Studio Select Newport 2 Mid SlantGrips: PING cords & Golf Pride New Decade Multi-Coumpound Bag: C-130...

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48*(PW), 52/08*, 56/12*, 60/04

48- Shots over ~110, knockdown shots <110, some greenside chips

52/08- the majority of shots <110 yds. I can hit my 52 high, low, short, long. I love that club; the thing can even cook eggs if I grip it right.

56/12- Sand and anything <90yds from the rough. The extra bounce realy helps cut through the rough

60/04- when I need a high soft shot. I don't use this club that much
"There is no miracle tip. Fix your swing."

In the bag:
Sumo2 w/ Aldila VS Proto 60g S
Halo 2h Apex Pro 4-PW Vokey 2 52.08/56.10/60.04 Red X #3 34" Tour Deep

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i hit some of my BEST sand shots ever today with my new callaway x-tour vintages, 52º and 58º! I was super happy and almost holed one from about 20 yards out of the sand

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i use 53* and 58*, cleveland CG12s

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MP600 - UST V2 STIFF SHAFT

PT906F2 UST V2 STIFF SHAFT RESCUE DUAL MP60 Irons CG12 Wedges Redwood Anser Black SatinITS ALL GOOD!! =]


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Currently 54 and 58 Vockey Raw. But looking to replace them very soon, thinking of Mizuno's 52 and 56..

In my bag:
MP 57's 4-PW KBS Stiff
Ping G 20 10.5* Stiff
Taylormade V Steel 3 and 5 wood

Bridgestone J33 R Hybrid 21* NV Shaft
Mizuno MP Quad Cut 52* and 56* Spinner Shafts

Scotty Cameron Newport Two TeI3


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Just curious, what do you guys use when your in the rough but the pin is about 5-15 feet? I hit my SW but end up either hitting too slow and ending up back in the rough or hit it too hard and overhit it.

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I use a vokey 248, SM54-10, and SM 58-8

Whats in my Warbird Hot Bad:

Driver: 907D1 9.5 - 65-S Aldila VS Proto --- FT-IQ coming soon?
2 Hybrid: Rescue mid-TP 16 deg
3 Hybrid: Rescue TP - HC Tour Only Model 19 deg - DG X-1004-PW: 695CB Irons - Project X 6.0Wedges Vokey SM58, Vokey SM54, Vokey 250Putter Futura PhantomWhere I WorkMy...


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Just curious, what do you guys use when your in the rough but the pin is about 5-15 feet? I hit my SW but end up either hitting too slow and ending up back in the rough or hit it too hard and overhit it.

I would get a better wedge to start with and second practice short hard brush strokes with wedge at the range. sometimes if the ball is buried you have to stab at it to get it out and thats a hard shot to to pull off without practice. pick up a mizuno or a vokey wedge with some weight to it to start- clevelands are nice as well

In my bag:
Titleist 910D2 w/Diamana Kaali'Stiff
Titleist 910F w/ Diamana Kaali' Stiff
Titleist 910F Hybrid 19 degree w/ Diamana Kaali' Stiff

Titleist AP1 Irons - TT S300
Titleist Vokey SM 50, 54 & 58 - Titleist Scott Cameron Newport


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54 Ping tour wedge is currently my anything under 130 yards in club. I had tried to use a 58 TM Rac Satin tp wedge but I have no confidence and it will be on Ebay in a week's time. Looking towards E-bay now for a 58 wedge replacement, perhaps an older CG11 for slightly more forgiveness and D6 weight.
FT-5 tour 10.5
Tour lp 14.5
X 19
Halo 22
BB 04 5 iron thru pw Black nickel tour 54CG11 58White hot tour rossie 34

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I have 4 wedges in my bag: 48d Mizuno MX-23 and a 52d, 56d (sand) and a 60d Mizuno MP series.

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I am hitting 54 degree and 58 degree Cleveland RTG 900 wedges. The main reason is to keep consistent gaps between my irons. I play Mac 565s and the gap wedge is 50 degrees.

I am thinking about replacing the 58 with a 60. There are times when I want a little more loft to land the ball a bit softer, or to clear trees. I have hit a 60 for years, but decided to stick with 58 for a bit.

Both wedges are mid bounce, as I prefer to have the option to hit both reliably out of the bunker. I do think the 58 is a great lob wedge for someone trying it out for the first time.

I can't stress enough the importance of knowing the lofts of your irons and getting wedges that maintain a consistent gap. I see very good golfers with terrible short games. Inevitably, they are hitting 45 degree pitching wedges - with their next club being a 56 degree sand wedge - a difference of 11 degrees (3 times to much).
Whats in my bag:
Driver: Cleveland Launcher 460
Fairway/Hybrid: 15 & 19 degree Nickent 3dx Utility
Irons: MacGregor M565
Wedges: Cleveland 900 RTG 54 & 58 degreePutter: Odyssey DFX 2 ball

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