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I am 6'5" and use +2.0" irons and +2.0 degree up lie. I use TT Dynamic Gold SL shafts. This helps you keep the swing weight in check.

For the driver I use a 46" shaft and it is perfectly fine for me. This is now the standard length on many drivers, which I find interesting, because I would think it would feel too long for most guys. I wish it were possible (i.e. cheaply possible) to adjust lies on drivers. I think this is why I prefer square head drivers because the view of the square front helps me keep the club head horizontally even at ball strike, or at least close.

I like 36.5" or even 37" for putters. 36" is OK if my back is not acting up.

I components! Currently playing Alpha and Nakashima.


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+1" and 2 degrees up. Taylor Tour Burners.

Sean

What's in the bag:
Driver: TaylorMade R11S 9 degree.  Set to upright 8 degree.  Aldila RIP Alpha 60s X flex shaft.

3 wood: TaylorMade 13 degree RocketBallz (coming shortly).. X Flex Matrix X Conn.

Hybrids: 2iron / 4iron Taylor Burner Rescue.

Irons: 5 - PW 2008 Model Year Titleist AP2

Wedges: 49*, 54* 60* Cleveland 588 Rusties.

Putter: Scotty Cameron Kombi Long.

Balls: Titleist Pro VX

Bag: Titleist Black / Red Staff


  • 2 weeks later...
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I just bought a set of used irons, is it still worth it to get them fitted? or do people usually get irons fitted when they order new irons, so they can choose their shafts, etc...?

Driver: Big Bertha 460 10*
Fairway: X Tour 3W 15* w/ Fujikura TP 26.3g
Hybrids: Fusion FT-Hybrid 3H 20*
Irons: MP-32 3i-PW
Wedges: Vokey 52.08 | SM56.14 | SM60.04Putter: Red X 33"Ball: Pro V1xShoes: Air Zoom Elite


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Im 6'4"....+1.5" and 3* upright

In my Ogio Ozone Bag:
TM Superquad 9.5* UST Proforce 77g Stiff
15* Sonartec SS-2.5 (Pershing stiff)
19* TM Burner (stock stiff)
4-U - PING i10 White dot, +1.25 inches, ZZ65 stiff shafts55*/11* Snake Eyes Form Forged (DGS300)60*/12* Snake Eyes Form Forged (DGS300)Ping i10 1/2 MoonTitleist ProV1


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I play a standard length, but 3* upright.

Driver: MP-600 9.5 w/ Fujikura E360 Stiff Shaft
4 Wood: F-60 16.5 w/ Exsar FS3 Stiff Shaft
Irons:MP-57 3-PW w/ Dynamic Gold S300 Shafts
Wedges: MP-R Black-Ni 52, 56, & 60
Putter: Studio Select Newport 2Ball: ProV1/ProV1xGrips: Winn Xi7


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I'm 6'6" and im not a new golfer(doesnt mean very good but about 10 over usually). I used my boss's clubs and he has a +1.5" and i played much better. He is about 6'4". I try and use my old clubs and they are default height and i cant play at all. I go from relying on my putts to break even par from easily getting on the green for a shot at a birdie put. Do you think it is a good idea for me to get +1.5" 2*/1*? I have plenty of money to buy a good set but im not sure where to get them made for me. I'm looking at the taylor made burners but can i have them make them custom online? Their website is probably really expensive so if i could get them made somewhere else that would be great. Any help is really appreciated.

Thanks again!

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Cutom fitted Titleist 755 irons; the custom measurements were standard loft & lie, standard length and reg flex tri-spec steel. So they are custom for me, and standard for anyone wanting to buy them down the line.

Superquad
Fusion #3
Big Bertha Warbird #5
755 3-PW
Vokey SM56.10 & 60.08 White Hot 2-ball


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+1/2", 1 degree upright on my X20s with standard Callaway Uniflex shafts. Best decision I ever made. I'm 6'3"

I threw my clubs into the lake so it's time to start over...

Driver: Great Big Bertha II 10°, Callaway System 60 Firm
Woods: Tour 2400 Plus 3
Hybrid: 19.0° 503 H, Adila NV 85 SIrons: X20 4-GWPutter: Studio Select Newport 2


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im 6'1 and mine are 2 inches longer and 2.5* upright

909D3 9.5° w/ Matrix Ozik Xcon 7 Lime Green Exotics cb2 15 Aldila DVS S-85 Slingshot 17° UST Irod S-110g G10 21° TFC S-129g i10 S300 Green Dot 4-PW Vokey Spin Milled Black Nickel 56° and 60° Made for the Tour AOP Newport PP

Age 16

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I'm 6'5" and currently playing +1/2" long and 1* upright. Not sure what my proper fitting should be, but I hit the clubs well like this.

Driver: 4DX Tour 9°
3 Wood: Burner
Irons: J33 Combo
Wedge: 56°
Putter: Pipe PP/002Ball: Gamer


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LongIron,

It would be worth it for you to have your swing sized up. I was a low handicap for years plying clubs that were too short and not upright enough and finally when I was fitted I was amazed at the difference. My length didn't change much (+1/2 to +1) but my lie angle went from 2 up to 5 up, it made a world of difference.

Kevin
In the Bag:
ADAMS XTD 10.5 (S) 46"
Mizuno F-50 4-wood NV-65
TaylorMade Rescue TP 19° & 22°
TaylorMade X-300 FCI 5-pw Rifle 6.0 +1 4upCleveland 588 RTG 52° & 56° 3 upOdyssey 2-ball LONG cut to 40"

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My clubfitter always tell me that i'm a nightmare. I'm just 5' 5'' but I have an avarage swing speed of 105. So I play 1 inch shorter but stiff.

driver: FT-i
woods: x-woods 5
hybrid: 585H 24°
irons: AP2 4-PW
wedges: X- tour 52° 56° 60°putter: kastern B60balls: tours ix or pro v1x


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LongIron,

Thanks - its definitely something I should get nailed-down, but ball striking really isn't my problem (comparatively). My short game is killing my scores and I think that is based more on lack of practice rather than lie/length.

I imagine I'll probably be similar to you in regards to not a lot of additional length, but substantial change in lie angle. What immediate change did you notice in your game?

Driver: 4DX Tour 9°
3 Wood: Burner
Irons: J33 Combo
Wedge: 56°
Putter: Pipe PP/002Ball: Gamer


Posted
I imagine I'll probably be similar to you in regards to not a lot of additional length, but substantial change in lie angle. What immediate change did you notice in your game?

My short game improved big time! I am 6'6 and had always thought that I needed +1 inch and 2* upright irons. The length works ok but when I finally checked my swing on a lie board it kept telling me that I needed a 5* upright lie. I didn't believe it until I adjusted my pitching wedge and oh my, what a difference! It was those little flip shots that would get me into trouble, after the switch, not more. Definitely look into it.

Kevin
In the Bag:
ADAMS XTD 10.5 (S) 46"
Mizuno F-50 4-wood NV-65
TaylorMade Rescue TP 19° & 22°
TaylorMade X-300 FCI 5-pw Rifle 6.0 +1 4upCleveland 588 RTG 52° & 56° 3 upOdyssey 2-ball LONG cut to 40"

Posted
I had been using a standard set of irons...but just felt that I wasn't getting down on it enough...and when I did...I ended up chucking it a bit. This wasn't every swing, but just didn't feel right.

So I put in some 1" extensions and I feel much more confident and seem to be stricking the ball better as a result.

My hight states that I should be "standard", but with any golf club...it is more about feel...and I feel that the 1" longer just feels better.
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