Vokey Not Rusting

[Akers]

I've had my Oil Can Vokey for about two months now, when ever there is rust on ther eit comes off straight away when I play.

[Magnus]

Yes, thats what happens. The metal oxidizes, and basically the top layer is exposed to the air and that is what rusts. Hit a few balls in sandy soil and off the rust comes, so after a round the sweet spot ans the sole of my vokeys look like raw metal. Usually it rusts right up again in a day or two. So, what you are experiencing is normal.

[T.J.K.]

Soak it in Coke. It will rust enough that it should stay on then.

[FlopShotArtist]

-Leave it outside when it's raining.
-Leave it outside, period.
-Get it wet, then put it outside.
-Put it in some Coca-Cola.
-Vinegar?
-Give it some time.

[iacas]

  Akers said:

I've had my Oil Can Vokey for about two months now, when ever there is rust on ther eit comes off straight away when I play.

Why would you want rust? Rust does nothing but erode the grooves and in fact the entire club. There's NO REASON to rust a club.

[GaijinGolfer]

I thought that you wanted the clubface to rust because that way it grabs the ball better and spins it more.
I was under the understand that the reason why they have gone to carbon steel heads is for the very reason.

[teal]

I am assuming that people figure the rust enhances spin as it doesn't errode the surface of the club evenly. Rusty metal tends to have a rough texture/surface - poor man's Spin Milling.....

[iacas]

  TitleistWI said:

I thought that you wanted the clubface to rust because that way it grabs the ball better and spins it more.

It does not. If anything, it spins less. And, again, it wears down the club faster. It doesn't make the club feel softer, either.

We have a website, you know, and it has articles like this one . Go ahead and read it.

  TitleistWI said:

I was under the understand that the reason why they have gone to carbon steel heads is for the very reason.

They use dull finishes or leave clubheads raw because people prefer the look. Dull = no glare, and the little patterns of semi-rust that can develop make the clubs unique.

  teal said:

I am assuming that people figure the rust enhances spin as it doesn't errode the surface of the club evenly. Rusty metal tends to have a rough texture/surface - poor man's Spin Milling.....

That's not what spin milling is - it has nothing to do with the surface texture. The GROOVES are what are milled.

Titleist must be failing in its marketing if so many people think the FACE is what's "spin milled." The grooves are, people. Given that shift in your knowledge base, it's probably easier for you to see that you're assuming incorrectly.

[GaijinGolfer]

  iacas said:

We have a website, you know, and it has articles

Interesting... I swear, I learn something new every time I come on this site.

[rudygu]

  teal said:

I am assuming that people figure the rust enhances spin as it doesn't errode the surface of the club evenly. Rusty metal tends to have a rough texture/surface - poor man's Spin Milling.....

  iacas said:

That's not what spin milling is - it has nothing to do with the surface texture. The GROOVES are what are milled.

Yeah, check out the

Spin Milled Page on the Titleist website. It says the "Micro Edges" on the Spin Milled wedge face are a result of CNC machining - pretty vague. The Spin Milling just refers to the tool they cut the grooves with to provide a steeper draft angle for increased groove volume.

[michaeljames92]

The rust bluntens the grooves doesn't it? which makes it spin less.

[williethekid]

  iacas said:

It does not. If anything, it spins less. And, again, it wears down the club faster. It doesn't make the club feel softer, either.

While I agree with you on the rust/spin ratio. Spin milling in fact has everything to do with the face. As per the titleist web site spin milling is the act of milling the face which creates "micro edges" that supposedly impart more spin on partial spots. Check it out.

[iacas]

  williethekid said:

Spin milling in fact has everything to do with the face. As per the titleist web site spin milling is the act of milling the face which creates "micro edges" that supposedly impart more spin on partial spots. Check it out.

Though that's what makes the most sense (most people don't think of milling grooves), according to Titleist and as of earlier this year, the "micro edges" (the "rougher face") aren't what they consider the "spin milled" part. Titleist considers the "spin milled" part the tool they use to cut the grooves.

The face roughness, or "micro edges" that in crease friction, that's milling as well, but a more traditional style. Putter guys (including Scotty Cameron) have been using milling of that sort for years or decades. Titleist doesn't consider the face texture to be the "spin milled" part. It's a bit confusing, admittedly, because the 200 series doesn't have the same "micro edges" (rougher surface). And according to one higher-up, the confusion over the name "spin milled" has the positive side effect that if they ever want to change the name to mean the face, they can do so and nobody will catch 'em. But the official word is, as of now, that the "spin milled" refers to the grooves. Feel free to PM me if you want to further discuss it (I'll make a point of asking Titleist again tomorrow what they mean and if things have changed with the, ummmm, new Spin Milled wedges), but let's please let this particular thread get back on topic: rust.

[DDBowdoin]

  iacas said:

It does not. If anything, it spins less. And, again, it wears down the club faster. It doesn't make the club feel softer, either.

ENJOY YOUR WEDGE!!

Soak the wedge in vinegar... this will strip the entire finish off of the club. You can go out and buy a gun blueing kit from dicks sporting goods for under 20 bucks, this kit will give you a gunblue finish that literally lasts a round and will immediately give you a dark rusted look... much more brown than the original oil finish enjoy!

[NBGC]

Rusting is easy, wish there were an easy way to get my oil can finish back

I've seen the coke method in action, it'll strip a head clean.

[DDBowdoin]

the coke method works but it pretty messy... try the vinegar

works wonders, vinegar and some steel wool