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so i was playing a regular round of golf, and the varsity coach walked up, he a collector of scotty camerons, and saw the unmistakeble red head cover in my bag. he noted the circle t on the headcover and on the putter and thought it was pretty impressive. Then when he looked under the grip, he said that there should be a serial number there. problem is, there are no serial numbers on my putter. the putter looks completly legitimate, i checked all spots in which the fakes are revealed, by not curling the t in titelist. what do you guys think? Secondly, what does scotty cameron do if you send him a fake putter trying to get it authenticated?


u cant tell in the pics, but theres a circle t in the red dot, and the back of the putter reads cameron, with a red dot in the o and a circle t within that o. The inside of the putter cover reads designed exclusively for titleist.


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heres some pics of the headcover

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IIRC in a different post you mentioned that you got you putter new in the plastic for $250, and this made me think it might be fake. I say this because if it was a tour issue then it wouldn't have been in the plastic since somebody would have at-least tried it on a practice green or something. But then again I haven't ever seen a Tour Issue Scotty.

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sorry man, that putter is fake. Also if you said that the head was wrapped in plastic, it is fake because scotty heads are never in plastic wrapping.

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sorry man, that putter is fake. Also if you said that the head was wrapped in plastic, it is fake because scotty heads are never in plastic wrapping.

the grip was wrapped the plastic, the grip, not the head. the grip, ive had to repeat this one hundred times.

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the grip was wrapped the plastic, the grip, not the head. the grip, ive had to repeat this one hundred times.

But tour issue putters still don't come in plastic, since a play would have at the very least tried it on a practice green. They don't make them and then rap them in plastic just for the public.

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thats not a tour putter, its a standard putter with a tour headcover

now whether or not its fake or whatever, its hard to tell due to some poor quality in those pictures

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Is it still 35" (like it says it is on the sole)? If it was cut the grip might be covering the serial number.
Reshoot the photos with no flash/no glare (like in a daylight window)...

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putter: Studio Select Newport 1.5


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Great Articles to Avoiding Fake Scotty Cameron Putters

The Studio Style is the most prevelent knock-off here on e-bay, so here's some pointers to help you spot the "fakes".

-One thing for sure with the covers is the Titleist logo, the "T" is much more curved on a fake, and the aligment is usually further left.

-Also look at the letters "A" and "M" the A on a fake comes to a point at the top, and is more curved on an original.

- The "M" is much more straight up and down than on an authentic headcover.

- As far as the club itself, most phonies will not have the proper shaft, if the shaft is "TrueTemper", be warned, it's not a stock shaft, or at least it's not common to see the actual "True Temper" written on the shaft itself.

-Additionally the Scotty Cameron sticker with club details will always be under the grip (not visible when at address), unless it's a full wrap-around, of course.

-The most important thing is to ask for additional photos from the seller of a Studio (SC) putter, or any suspicious Scotty, because there are many fakes on the market now, ask for detailed photos of the sole, cover, and milled face.

-Also, the back will not show any signs of (buffing) on the backside of a fake, it will look almost "powdery"; this is a good sign the club was never really finished in the "Studio".

- And Studio Style heads DO NOT COME WRAPPED IN PLASTIC!!!

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Posted
Great Articles to Avoiding Fake Scotty Cameron Putters

Great post. I was gonna ask how to tell. Thanks!


Posted
I really hope you mean that you disclose that it's a fake when you sell it.

I was thinking the same thing.

That really does bite....sorry. http://www.cameroncollector.com/foru...c,39982.0.html
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Posted
So is the putter fake?

I may be looking to getting a Cameron in the near future also.

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Posted
heres some pics of the headcover

here is the real headcover

The dot colors are different (blue not grey), the stitching looks different...

driver: FT-i tlcg 9.5˚ (Matrix Ozik XCONN Stiff)
4 wood: G10 (ProLaunch Red FW stiff)
3 -PW: :Titleist: 695 mb (Rifle flighted 6.0)
wedges:, 52˚, 56˚, 60˚
putter: Studio Select Newport 1.5


Posted
Since .1% of the US 600 billion dollars is counterfeit, pay for the counterfeit products with counterfeit dollars.

counterfeiting is a $250 billion dollar industry in the USA right now. Most people can evaluate only by the name on the product and are vulnerable to counterfeiters. If you cannot trust your government or your media, why do you think you trust your retailer.

If the deal seems too good then the alarm should go off. You have braggers who claim to only have spent $150 for their Scotty Cameron. DUH!!!!!!!???? The best part is these guys think that they are really smart.

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Posted
Like DDBOWDOIN stated, your putter look likes a standard of the shelft putter with a possibility of Tour Head Cover, or even a Tour Head Cover. Regarding of serial #, SC Newport2 doesn't come with one until a couple years later.

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