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Gack!

This addiction sucks.

Being new to the area I don't know many that play golf, and the guys that I do know won't play before 10am. I like to play early and get home before lunch. So, off I go to get in line at 0630 so I can get on by 0730.

Sorry, just complaining about my addiction and the laziness of my current small crop of golf friends. Quick, someone feel sorry for me.

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I'm a very early riser and like to be one of the first on the course. It is actually really fun to be paired up with other golfers. I am a very good golfer so I usually just stay within my own game and have fun.

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I like to get up and play early. no one here is there early. and for me, I am not very outgoing. Plus my game is still kinda of a hit or miss on being good and I don't like to slow others play. My golf parter just moved to IL so now I am out of a partner that has my skill level.

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I did that at a public course I used to belong to. There were guys who volunteered to bring out the carts in order to be the first off on Saturday/Sunday mornings. I paired up with them for awhile...until one guy got jealous because I was better than he was and basically kicked me out of the group. From then on I would tee off ahead of them.
It became a challenge late in the year when you had to play the first few holes in the dark!

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Man, I'm glad I live in West Virginia. I can't imagine getting to the course at 6:30 and having to wait until 7:30 to tee off. My buddy and I generally play Sunday morning at 7:00am and are one of the first couple groups off. Never ever waiting at that time unless they start sending folks off the back at 8 or 8:30 and we get stuck behind them.

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I like to play early and get home before lunch. So, off I go to get in line at 0630 so I can get on by 0730.

Dude, you moved to the Bay Area(?)... I don't think that will make many people feel sorry for you. Golf 365 days a year, 300+ sunny days and dry heat.. You've got it made :).

Anyway, try some of the smaller courses. I don't know where you live, but I play on Shoreline in Mountain View and you can pretty much walk on at 6:30 and tee off at 6:31 (during the week).

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People play golf at 6:30 am in the middle of the night???

I'm a very early riser and like to be one of the first on the course.

Yeah me too - but if i make it by 9 i am early and more often than not i´m the first anyways...

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Gack!

Where do you play?

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People play golf at 6:30 am in the middle of the night???

It seems like an alien concept to some...me being one of those. I play most of my golf during the week on my days off. I need time to get a few cups of coffee in my system, read the news, and get my son off to school. By then I'm somewhat ready to tackle the day. The guys I generally play with don't like to tee off prior to 9:30-10:30. One thing that bites us locally with early tee times is the greens almost always have a dew layer on them and roll much slower than norm. Either it will burn off or a greenskeeper will blow it off most days by the turn and you have yourself a different course....tough making the adjustment for some. Making early morning rooster tails is tough following late evening cocktails.
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Dude, you moved to the Bay Area(?)... I don't think that will make many people feel sorry for you. Golf 365 days a year, 300+ sunny days and dry heat.. You've got it made :).

Ya, sucks to live here, eh? I moved back here from TX. In TX you HAD to tee off first thing ebcause by noon it was too hot to play. At least out here a late tee doesn't add heatstroke to your game.

Good idea about he smaller spots.. I'm in the East Bay and it seems like they are all packed....
Where do you play?

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... I need time to get a few cups of coffee in my system,

I tried to play golf BEFORE coffee, once ...

... I really should have known better ... I like trying to get off early around here, but that means that I have to beat the old guys out by 8 or it's not really safe until like 10 to try and get on especially if I go to my "practice" course, it's slower than a heard of turtles if I time it wrong ...
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All summer long my golf buddy and I tee off before the coarse is open we just pay at the turn, as long as we can see our ball we go, which is around 5:45 at the peak of summer. now it's around 6:30 is the earliest.

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I usually play at 7 am at our course and finish about 11:30am. About 4 years ago, right after the Pros came out to play one of our local golf courses, the first opportunity to play the course in the conditions the pro's played, I got up and waited to play by getting at the golf course by 4 am two days in a row.

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Dude, you moved to the Bay Area(?)... I don't think that will make many people feel sorry for you. Golf 365 days a year, 300+ sunny days and dry heat.. You've got it made :).

Which SJ area courses would you recommend as a pretty safe bet for walk-on's? I'm in the SJ area every 6 months or so for business, and would love to have an excuse to tee it up when out there, except booking a tee time is not possible due to all the random work activities. I've heard some talk about Coyote Creek, The Ranch, and Los Lagos, but don't if these (or others) are better for walk-on's who don't want to wait around 2+ hours.

Thanks in advance.

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Which SJ area courses would you recommend as a pretty safe bet for walk-on's?

I haven't done many, but Shoreline in Mountain View is not too busy. We called on a Friday at 3:15 and had time at 4:10. So, if you call from the car you should only have a 30 min wait or so. San Jose Muni gets crazy. Sunnyvale muni seems pretty quiet the times I went there.

I haven't been to others.

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