909's are here!!

[kekoa]

Played nine holes (hit a few drives off each to test) with the 909D2 today. Love the sound, really like the feel and forgiveness, but didn't get a single ball to fade due to some goofy thing in my swing, so more testing required.

jacas, i'm surprised you wouldn't be playing the D3. i wanted a D2 also until i set up to it. Looks too much like a TM burner to me. I could be the only one. ps. i currently play a 907 D2 9.5*. I hit it super high. Am I better off getting a 7.5* D3 or getting a higher kick point shaft to give me a lower ball flight? I'm worried if i get a lower loft if it will accentuate side spin? thanks

[iacas]

jacas, i'm surprised you wouldn't be playing the D3.

Too many people seem to think the D3 is the bee's knees or that they should hit it. Fact of the matter is it's the driver for about 10% - 20% of the market: players with extremely high launch and extremely high spin.

I'm in the middle: good launch and good spin. So the D2 is the driver for me.

i wanted a D2 also until i set up to it. Looks too much like a TM burner to me. I could be the only one.

Eh, I don't see it like that. The Burner is a heck of a lot more like the 907D1, I think, than the 909D2.

ps. i currently play a 907 D2 9.5*. I hit it super high. Am I better off getting a 7.5* D3 or getting a higher kick point shaft to give me a lower ball flight? I'm worried if i get a lower loft if it will accentuate side spin?

It's not so much about accentuating side spin. Do you hit it high with a lot of backspin or do you just hit it high?

I'd look at the shaft more than anything to start. Almost nobody needs a low-launching head with 7.5° loft.

[kekoa]

Too many people seem to think the D3 is the bee's knees or that they should hit it. Fact of the matter is it's the driver for about 10% - 20% of the market: players with extremely high launch and extremely high spin.

Wow, I didn't know that about the D3. With a solid 4 index do i fall within that 10-20%? :) Also, i've never been on a launch monitor yet so i'm not sure i hit the ball high or with a lot of backspin or both. I just know that my ball is going at least twice as high as guys i'm playing with. Normally, i'm right out there with them in terms of distance though. If i could get a lower boring ball flight, i'm also hoping to get a little run too.

[Magnus]

Wow, I didn't know that about the D3. With a solid 4 index do i fall within that 10-20%? :)

Get to a launch monitor, if you hit a high knuckler, without alot of spin you will be the envy of most players :) I hit it high, like you, typically 2x as high as I should, with up to 4000 rpms if I use most stock shafts in stores (tried the new burner 09 - 4500 rpms??? Good Lord) Alas, I digress - a monitor session will be well worth it to confirm your suspicions of high launch/high spin or whatnot...

[cigarnut81]

(KEKOA) ps. i currently play a 907 D2 9.5*. I hit it super high. Am I better off getting a 7.5* D3 or getting a higher kick point shaft to give me a lower ball flight? I'm worried if i get a lower loft if it will accentuate side spin?

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Even the lowest trajectory shaft you can find will only change your laungh angle by 2*. The main factor in trajectory is the angle of attack of the club head. Find a way to measure your angle of attack with the driver and I can be of more help.

[kekoa]

any large golf chains have launch monitors? also, what do they charge for a quick session? I live in orange county cali, btw.

thanks

[deronsizemore]

I was checking them out at the golf store yesterday actually. I'm sure there's technology going on behind the scenes that you can't physically see, but holding the 909D2 and the 907D2 right next to each other, visibly there's little difference in the heads. I'm sure the average golfer will hit it as such too... with little difference.

Being sarcastic? They're improved in terms of launch conditions and they offer, unlike the 907s, three separate launch conditions to better suit a wider range of players.

Now if majority of the golfers that will be purchasing these clubs could just get a consistent enough swing to take advantage of the launch conditions.

BTW: Do you like your 907D2? I'm thinking about getting fitted for one now that the price has dropped.

[iacas]

Wow, I didn't know that about the D3. With a solid 4 index do i fall within that 10-20%? :)

Handicap is irrelevant. The 10-20% I'm referring to hit the ball high with a lot of spin. Many of these guys might also be stack-and-tilters (not so much for the high flight, but they're awfully high spin).

Also, i've never been on a launch monitor yet so i'm not sure i hit the ball high or with a lot of backspin or both. I just know that my ball is going at least twice as high as guys i'm playing with.

The best ballflight is often quite a bit higher than people think. It's about maximizing carry yardage, after all - roll is for people who are stuck in a mid-90s mindset re: distance. 280 yards of carry is much easier to play with than 250 yards of carry and 30 yards of roll. (And yeah, same is true at 250 and 220/30.)

Normally, i'm right out there with them in terms of distance though. If i could get a lower boring ball flight, i'm also hoping to get a little run too.

You don't want run.

A person's ideal launch angle and spin rate won't generate much roll. Carry yardage rules the day. In other words, if you average 250 now, you can get that with 245 carry and 5 yards of roll or 225 carry and 25 yards of roll... but you're not going to find a way (assuming you're playing properly fitted equipment already) to get 245 carry and 25 yards of roll. Instead you'll just be like your friends: lower launch, less carry, more roll, and overall - about the same distance.

BTW: Do you like your 907D2? I'm thinking about getting fitted for one now that the price has dropped.

Not sure who you're asking, but I've loved mine. Best driver ever - and a year or two ago I was alternating between the r7 425 TP and the FT-3.

[Klew]

kekoa, go to Roger Dunn in Santa Ana. Their LM is free if you are thinking about buying, and from what I've experienced, pretty accurate. But yeah, like iacas said, you aren't going to need a low loft with the D3. It's already low. Try the D2. The D3 was definitely more pleasing to the eye but the D2 is longer imo.

[kekoa]

kekoa, go to Roger Dunn in Santa Ana. Their LM is free if you are thinking about buying, and from what I've experienced, pretty accurate. But yeah, like iacas said, you aren't going to need a low loft with the D3. It's already low. Try the D2. The D3 was definitely more pleasing to the eye but the D2 is longer imo.

i understand, but being pleasing to the eye is more important to me than distance. I think i pretty much have all the distance I'm ever going to get. Not that it matters, but are most tour guys playing the d2???

[misty_mountainhop]

Re. the D3 and a 10-20% target audience. Don't be put off trying it out. I was told much the same about the 983E vs. the 983K i.e. E is low spin/low tragectory etc. All I can say is I'm very glad I tried the 983E out. It isn't much lower (I'm not a stack/tilt) than the K, it carries; in fact maybe I'll just investigate a reshaft....

[st0wgolf08]

jacas, i'm surprised you wouldn't be playing the D3. i wanted a D2 also until i set up to it. Looks too much like a TM burner to me. I could be the only one.

First off if you hit a 9.5 high, why wouldn't you try a 8.5, not a 7.5?

[Klew]

i understand, but being pleasing to the eye is more important to me than distance. I think i pretty much have all the distance I'm ever going to get.

yup most tour guys are playing the D2, correct.

D3 is nice...go for it!

[iacas]

Not that it matters, but are most tour guys playing the d2???

Yeah. I suggest you listen to

this podcast .

[deronsizemore]

Not sure who you're asking, but I've loved mine. Best driver ever - and a year or two ago I was alternating between the r7 425 TP and the FT-3.

Yeah, I was referring to you.

You say "loved." Did you get a new driver or still using the 907D2?

[iacas]

You say "loved." Did you get a new driver or still using the 907D2?

You're reading a thread about the 909s... what do you think?

And technically, I didn't say "loved," I said "I have loved" - that's present perfect tense, IIRC - not past tense. In other words, I just got a 909, and I still love my 907.

[deronsizemore]

You're reading a thread about the 909s... what do you think?

Well excuse me!

Thanks for the English lesson though... I really did hate that class in college. Maybe I should have payed more attention. I was just going by your signature as it says you still play a 907D2, so that's why I asked if you had upgraded.

[kekoa]

Yeah. I suggest you listen to

wow, that was very informative. the two reps interviewed really know their stuff. I think the D3 would be right for me. Now I just need to decide which shaft is right for me.

I just spent almost $200 for a Tour AD throttle shaft on my 907 D2. I guess I'll just keep this for back up.