Jump to content
Check out the Spin Axis Podcast! ×
Note: This thread is 6074 days old. We appreciate that you found this thread instead of starting a new one, but if you plan to post here please make sure it's still relevant. If not, please start a new topic. Thank you!

Recommended Posts

Posted
I've been dreaming about getting some new wedges for a few months now and I have settled on the Nike SV Tour. I hit these at a golf store and really liked the look and feel, and they come a bit cheaper than some of the other options.

Currently I have an old 52 degree and an old 56 degree. Should I buy a 54 (12 bounce) and 58 degree (10 bounce) to replace these two?

Or should I buy a 60 degree (6 bounce) and keep my other 2 wedges for now?

Posted
I say get the 54 and the 58 degree because they replace any of the shots that you might have with a 52 and a 56, plus they have more versatility with regards to shot maknig.

Driver: Callaway Big Bertha Diablo 9º
2 Hybrid: Callaway Big Bertha Heavenwood
Irons: Nike Slingshot OSS 6-3 iron
          Taylormade Tour Preferred PW-7 iron
Wedges: Cleveland CG14 50º, 54º
              Taylormade RAC 58º
Putter: Ping Darby 32" shaft


 


Posted
i think it just depends. if you go the 3 wedge route, you have to get rid of another club in your bag. can you do that? maybe the 3 iron?
i personally love using only 2 wedges for that very reason (so i can have an extra longer club in my bag)

Posted
I just upgraded my wedges and took the 56 out completely. Went to a 50/54 because I'm seriously thinking about a 2 iron hybrid due to me playing more and more from the tips

Posted
i think it just depends. if you go the 3 wedge route, you have to get rid of another club in your bag. can you do that? maybe the 3 iron?

I agree completely. I was avid subscriber to Pelz and the more wedges the better theory, until I realized I never got good with any of them. Dropped the gap and the 64 in favor of two more options off the tee and from 230+, my 5 wood and the 19 hybrid. My short game actually got better. I have now gotten completely comfortable with my 54 from 115 to green.

/J6

i15 w/Diamana Blue 9.5
G10 w/Prolaunch Red 17
Raylor 19* 909h 21 MB 4-PW Vokey Spin Milled 54* and 60* Circa 62 No 7


Posted
Give thought to how many strokes you have from 100 yards and in. Then decide if you should add a 60 deg lob wedge or not. I say go with the 52, 56, and 60 and learn how to use them well. That will cut far more strokes off your score than a 2 iron/hybrid (or a 3 iron for that matter).

Posted
You are going to have FAR MORE shots from 120 and in than 220+ yard shots. Or lets just assume you're going to have a lot of 220+ yard shots, how many of them do you think are going to be on the green? I'd say go with more wedges, bro.

"One of the reasons Arnie Palmer is playing so well is that, before each final round, his wife takes out his balls and kisses them. Oh my God, what have I just said."
US Open TV Commentator

S9-1 Pro D Driver 9.5 Degree Matrix Ozik XCON-6
CGB 3WPro Baffler 2/R 2HybridMP-37 Project X 6.0Vokey...


Posted
3 wedges i think is a beter choice
i have had quite a few situations i wish i had a 60* in my bag....
im currently looking for a 60* Vokey Oil Can Wedge to fit my arsenal

i dont carry a 3 or 5 wood, so i still have room
i think 3 wedges is more beneficial than another wood/metal or hyrbid
i average 285+ off the T
"My swing is homemade - but I have perfect flaws!" - Me

Posted
It all depends on your game. If you hit the ball a long way, chances are you will have a large distance gap between a 48 PW and a 56 SW. You might want to stick with the 48-52-56-60 make up, or to eliminate having to carry 4 wedges, go with the 48-53-58 set. I have noticed that a 58 degree LW is all 99% of golfers need.

I've experimented with lob wedges from 58 all the way up to 66 degrees, and I recently took the 62 degree LW out of my bag. I have a 53 SW and 58 LW, and that covers all distances and shots for me.

If you play on soft wet courses or take large deep divots, go with more bounce. If you pick the ball clean and/or play on hard fast conditions, try wedges with less bounce.

Scratch golf has a great line of custom wedges that are gaining popularity on tour. Check them out - www.scratchgolf.com

In my Srixon staff bag:

Driver: Titleist 909D2 8.5 - Grafalloy Epic X
Fairway: Adams RPM LP 13 degree - Grafalloy Epic X
Hybrids: Adams Idea Pro 18 degree - DGSL X100Irons: MacGregor 1025M 3-PW - DG X100SW: Titleist Vokey Spin Milled 54 - DG X100LW: Titleist Vokey Spin Milled 58 - DG X100Putter...


Posted
Any retailers that sell Scratch Golf stuff for cheaper?

There are some on eBay, but I'm not aware of retail shops selling them. Because they are custom clubs, I would guess that they will want to keep it that way.

In my Srixon staff bag:

Driver: Titleist 909D2 8.5 - Grafalloy Epic X
Fairway: Adams RPM LP 13 degree - Grafalloy Epic X
Hybrids: Adams Idea Pro 18 degree - DGSL X100Irons: MacGregor 1025M 3-PW - DG X100SW: Titleist Vokey Spin Milled 54 - DG X100LW: Titleist Vokey Spin Milled 58 - DG X100Putter...


Note: This thread is 6074 days old. We appreciate that you found this thread instead of starting a new one, but if you plan to post here please make sure it's still relevant. If not, please start a new topic. Thank you!

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now


  • Want to join this community?

    We'd love to have you!

    Sign Up
  • TST Partners

    PlayBetter
    Golfer's Journal
    ShotScope
    The Stack System
    FitForGolf
    FlightScope Mevo
    Direct: Mevo, Mevo+, and Pro Package.

    Coupon Codes (save 10-20%): "IACAS" for Mevo/Stack/FitForGolf, "IACASPLUS" for Mevo+/Pro Package, and "THESANDTRAP" for ShotScope. 15% off TourStriker (no code).
  • Posts

    • Nah, man. People have been testing clubs like this for decades at this point. Even 35 years. @M2R, are you AskGolfNut? If you're not, you seem to have fully bought into the cult or something. So many links to so many videos… Here's an issue, too: - A drop of 0.06 is a drop with a 90 MPH 7I having a ball speed of 117 and dropping it to 111.6, which is going to be nearly 15 yards, which is far more than what a "3% distance loss" indicates (and is even more than a 4.6% distance loss). - You're okay using a percentage with small numbers and saying "they're close" and "1.3 to 1.24 is only 4.6%," but then you excuse the massive 53% difference that going from 3% to 4.6% represents. That's a hell of an error! - That guy in the Elite video is swinging his 7I at 70 MPH. C'mon. My 5' tall daughter swings hers faster than that.
    • Yea but that is sort of my quandary, I sometimes see posts where people causally say this club is more forgiving, a little more forgiving, less forgiving, ad nauseum. But what the heck are they really quantifying? The proclamation of something as fact is not authoritative, even less so as I don't know what the basis for that statement is. For my entire golfing experience, I thought of forgiveness as how much distance front to back is lost hitting the face in non-optimal locations. Anything right or left is on me and delivery issues. But I also have to clarify that my experience is only with irons, I never got to the point of having any confidence or consistency with anything longer. I feel that is rather the point, as much as possible, to quantify the losses by trying to eliminate all the variables except the one you want to investigate. Or, I feel like we agree. Compared to the variables introduced by a golfer's delivery and the variables introduced by lie conditions, the losses from missing the optimal strike location might be so small as to almost be noise over a larger area than a pea.  In which case it seems that your objection is that the 0-3% area is being depicted as too large. Which I will address below. For statements that is absurd and true 100% sweet spot is tiny for all clubs. You will need to provide some objective data to back that up and also define what true 100% sweet spot is. If you mean the area where there are 0 losses, then yes. While true, I do not feel like a not practical or useful definition for what I would like to know. For strikes on irons away from the optimal location "in measurable and quantifiable results how many yards, or feet, does that translate into?"   In my opinion it ok to be dubious but I feel like we need people attempting this sort of data driven investigation. Even if they are wrong in some things at least they are moving the discussion forward. And he has been changing the maps and the way data is interpreted along the way. So, he admits to some of the ideas he started with as being wrong. It is not like we all have not been in that situation 😄 And in any case to proceed forward I feel will require supporting or refuting data. To which as I stated above, I do not have any experience in drivers so I cannot comment on that. But I would like to comment on irons as far as these heat maps. In a video by Elite Performance Golf Studios - The TRUTH About Forgiveness! Game Improvement vs Blade vs Players Distance SLOW SWING SPEED! and going back to ~12:50 will show the reference data for the Pro 241. I can use that to check AskGolfNut's heat map for the Pro 241: a 16mm heel, 5mm low produced a loss of efficiency from 1.3 down to 1.24 or ~4.6%. Looking at AskGolfNut's heatmap it predicts a loss of 3%. Is that good or bad? I do not know but given the possible variations I am going to say it is ok. That location is very close to where the head map goes to 4%, these are very small numbers, and rounding could be playing some part. But for sure I am going to say it is not absurd. Looking at one data point is absurd, but I am not going to spend time on more because IME people who are interested will do their own research and those not interested cannot be persuaded by any amount of data. However, the overall conclusion that I got from that video was that between the three clubs there is a difference in distance forgiveness, but it is not very much. Without some robot testing or something similar the human element in the testing makes it difficult to say is it 1 yard, or 2, or 3?  
    • Wordle 1,668 3/6 🟨🟨🟩⬜⬜ ⬜🟨⬜⬜🟨 🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩
    • Wordle 1,668 3/6 🟨🟩🟨🟨⬜ 🟩🟩🟩🟩⬜ 🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩 Should have got it in two, but I have music on my brain.
    • Wordle 1,668 2/6* 🟨🟨🟩⬛⬛ 🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

Welcome to TST! Signing up is free, and you'll see fewer ads and can talk with fellow golf enthusiasts! By using TST, you agree to our Terms of Use, our Privacy Policy, and our Guidelines.