HELP with new Mizuno MX-200s. Ball flight is horrible!

[Pauly1]

I ordered a set of Mizuno MX 200s, I was fitted for these clubs and ordered the Dynalite XP S300 stiff (high launch shaft).

The launch angle on 3 - 7 is perfect, but I am hitting planes out of the sky with the 8, 9 and PW. The ball just hangs in the air forever. I tried playing the ball a little further back in my stance and that didn't help. I think my SS was 86 mph when I was fitted (keep in mind that I was fitted with a 6 iron only).

So long story short. What do I do? Should I reshaft just the 8, 9, and PW with a low launch shaft (Dynamic gold). Do you think this will bring the ball flight down. If not, I am going to have to sell these high irons and replace them with MP 52s.

ANy suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

[CG031]

How do you know your ball flight is too high? Does it show a noticeable lack of distance out of your 8-PW?

It's not bad to hit your 8-PW really high. I do. It's actually a really good thing. You'll get the ball to sit quickly.

Most high handicappers actually hit the ball too low.

[Pauly1]

How do you know your ball flight is too high? Does it show a noticeable lack of distance out of your 8-PW?

I have lost 20 yards easy, and if it's windy the ball will be all over the place. You can just see the ball launch straight up. I was playing Taylormade Firesoles from 2001 before I switched to the Mizunos, I hit my PW around 125 - 130 yards and I know what the ball flight was like. This isn't anywhere close. I agree that high isn't necessarily bad, but this is TO high. I was paired with someone who commented "I think that's the highest I've ever seen anyone hit a PW".

[Kcas77]

Getting the Mp-52 sounds like it better solution than trying to figure it out. The mx 200 and the mp 52 makes for a great combo set. Before I bought the clubs I have no I to had the problem of hitting the short irons too high. It was completly solved once I got better players irons.

[Pauly1]

Getting the Mp-52 sounds like it better solution than trying to figure it out. The mx 200 and the mp 52 makes for a great combo set. Before I bought the clubs I have no I to had the problem of hitting the short irons too high. It was completly solved once I got better players irons.

Yeah, I think that's the way to go as well. However I now need to get involved with trying to sell 4 clubs on E-Bay. Do you think having high launch shafts in the 200s 3 - 6 , and low launch shafts in the 7 - PW 52s will present any kind of a problem?

[opie]

You sure you're making a correct swing with the short irons? Only reason I ask is I get kinda "flippy" with my sand wedge which will cause it to sky rocket and come up well short of my intentions.

[Pauly1]

You sure you're making a correct swing with the short irons? Only reason I ask is I get kinda "flippy" with my sand wedge which will cause it to sky rocket and come up well short of my intentions.

Having only played 2 rounds with the new clubs, I will be spending a lot more time at the range before I make any final decisions. However, I'm pretty sure I'm hitting down on the ball and not flipping. It's a good point though, and I will check it again.

[Doctorfro]

My ball flight is high but my distance dwarfs my old irons. I'm loving these irons.

[CG031]

I have lost 20 yards easy, and if it's windy the ball will be all over the place. You can just see the ball launch straight up. I was playing Taylormade Firesoles from 2001 before I switched to the Mizunos, I hit my PW around 125 - 130 yards and I know what the ball flight was like. This isn't anywhere close. I agree that high isn't necessarily bad, but this is TO high. I was paired with someone who commented "I think that's the highest I've ever seen anyone hit a PW".

I have the same problem as well. I am losing at least 10 yards per club with my all my clubs, actually, because of height. But it's my swing. Before you go get new clubs make sure it's not your swing, man. I just got a lesson yesterday, and it was something I'm doing with my hands. I was getting the club head out in front of my hands at contact, and that was causing me to ADD LOFT to the club, resulting in the height, and making the distance less (turning a 7 iron into an 8, an 8 into a 9, 9 into a PW, etc. etc.)

[Leftygolfer]

Something you could do that would help is to get them bent. You could take 2 degrees off and see what the flight is like. I have the irons below bent and I really got my distance back with my irons. I felt like I was just hitting my irons too high. It really made a difference and was alot cheaper than getting new irons. It really made me like my irons alot more.

A heavier shaft would help too. You are going to spend alot of money to replace the 7-P and not get that much for the ones you have on ebay.

I would do everything I could before I made a change.

[swinger77]

I went from MP 57's with Project X 6.0 to MX 200's with DG XP S300 and my handi went from 14+ to 11+ in 10 rounds.  Lose the ego and make it more fun!!  YES the ball flight is very high (no ballooning though!!) but I don't notice a loss in distance at all.  In fact, the XP's are lighter by 10 grams or so and this allows for a little extra distance despite the high trajectory.  I do, however, like the earlier suggestion about bending the whole set a degree or two just to bring each club down a touch.  My PW is a moon ball at 130-135 yards and I think I am replacing the MX200 GW with a true wedge with wedge flex.

It's never ending..............

[Shanks A Million]

I really doubt many people hit the ball too high.  I hit the ball really, really high, sky high.  Many great players hit it as high, or even higher than me.  Rickie Fowler, for example, hits it higher than I do, and guess what?  He's better than me.  You're trying to get the ball to land flat and stop, even with long irons.  Most amateurs can't stop a long iron on the green.  What you think of as losing distance may just be right.  You aren't trying to hit your short irons a long way anyway, 130 yards with the PW is plenty long, even less.

I always tell people that their swings are often so timing based, that they can't rely on much.  I know I am not good enough to gauge whether a club is holding me back, or if I'm making the mistake.  When I can't hit a club, I film my swing.  99% of the time, my swing has changed.  This is mostly mental, but it can also be a swingweight thing that causes me to change.  Most of the time, it's me.  My pro helps me sort it out.  Odds are, if your handicap is north of 10, you aren't consistent enough to really judge what it is, you or the club.  Even a 5 handicap isn't quite good enough to worry.  The difference between two irons especially such short ones, is small.  Make sure the club fits you, yes, but understand that it's more likely something different you're doing.

[Deryck Griffith]

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Originally Posted by Pauly1

You sure you're making a correct swing with the short irons? Only reason I ask is I get kinda "flippy" with my sand wedge which will cause it to sky rocket and come up well short of my intentions.

Having only played 2 rounds with the new clubs, I will be spending a lot more time at the range before I make any final decisions. However, I'm pretty sure I'm hitting down on the ball and not flipping. It's a good point though, and I will check it again.

What shaft did you have in your previous set of irons.  And, what were the lofts of the previous set?  Maybe the PW in the previous set was stronger than the mizzy's?

[ohiolefty]

I'd agree that before you dump a ton of money...go have a pro look at you, including some video. It'll be cheaper in the long-run, plus you might get better. Then, you'll know for sure what the real issue is.

[blackxpress]

Just curious what the difference (if any) is in swing weight between your new clubs and your old clubs. I also would suspect your swing, especially if the new clubs are lighter than what you're used to it could cause you to release a little too early. That will definitely add loft and cause you to sky the ball. It might just be a matter of practicing with the new clubs until you get our swing dialed in.