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Can anyone point me in the right spot to see a proper explanation for the legs in the swing? A video would be good also.

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Thanks for the articles. I'm really, really struggling with this part of the game...all year. My hips turn too far on the backswing and I am unable to get them back into position as I come through the ball. So I push it, or hook it.

I get the idea of pushing your feet into the ground and swinging. But is that it? Is there no conscious effort to push a little bit off on the right foot (for righties) on the downswing?

Does anyone have a good drill for working on the lower body?

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Thanks for the articles. I'm really, really struggling with this part of the game...all year. My hips turn too far on the backswing and I am unable to get them back into position as I come through the ball. So I push it, or hook it.

Quiet legs are the best for consistency


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Quiet legs are the best for consistency

Correct. My only swing thought is to keep a solid right leg on the back and downswing. Let it extend naturally on the follow through.

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Leg and hip movements should be subconscious. If I had to think about them, I probably could not break 100.

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I would also agree with "quiet legs" In my latest lesson with the pro he said "If you are only going to have one swing thought, make sure it is to keep your right leg still"

I had a tendency to try to "push off" my right leg to generate more power in my swing, but in actual fact I generate much more power keeping it still.

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Leg and hip movements should be subconscious. If I had to think about them, I probably could not break 100.

I agree, but for a lot of players it has to be conscius to get the correct movement.

Especially for players who started playing golf after they turned 20. You have to get the right moves into your muscle memory before you can let your subconscious tak over. I try to fix one swing fault at the time and let a pro do the prioritizing on wich fault to fix first.

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Leg and hip movements should be subconscious. If I had to think about them, I probably could not break 100.

Thinking about rotating my hips properly has helped my game. That's my only thought though. Rotate the hips back in the swing and then uncoil. Everything else is just along for the ride. can't believe how much better I hit the ball doing that


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Can anyone point me in the right spot to see a proper explanation for the legs in the swing? A video would be good also.

I don't like posting my own article but since you did ask for an article with videos I suppose it is appropriate to post my own article. Enjoy.

http://www.kinestheticgolf.com/2008/11/quiet-legs.html

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That is a really good article about legs. In the beginning of the year that is almost solely what I worked on. Before too long I was hitting it long and straight. My cap dropped to it's lowest point ever, a 5. Recently I haven't been hitting the ball as purely and have been coming out of my swing. I can almost guarantee it is because my legs are getting crazy and I'm straightening my right leg. I have a lesson today. I will definitely discuss working on my legs and it will be my focus for the next month in preparation for my club championship.

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That is a really good article about legs.

Thanks. Hope you play well.

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