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So as the season here gets closer to it's end ( at least in Canada ) I've started to comtemplate purchasing new irons. I figure I might as well take advantage of the season end opportunities ( demo days, other golfers unloading clubs etc )

I've been golfing with a set of '02 Big Berthas. They've been good to me and my scores have dropped considerably, ( from 120's and higher to 100's and some 90's ) but I feel it's time to move on from them and get a club that isnt quite so forgiving.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not looking to make the move to blades as is so frequently discussed. I'm just looking at some options that will still afford me some forgiveness, but allow me to work the ball a little more and give some feedback on shots so I can further develop as a golfer.

Any suggestions out there? Anyone else made a similar jump and if so what did you use?

In my bag:

Nike SQ DYMO 10.5
Big Bertha 3 Wood
Big Bertha 3-10 IADAMS Tom Watson Classic 54,58 and 64 Wedges Nike Oz 5 Putter/Wilson Staff ( not sure model, bought it in second hand store ) Ball: Bridgestone E6


Posted
Theres been like 3 other threads like this one new set of irons lol I'd just check one of those but like I said I like the Taylormade R7's they feel very nice

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If you want to stick to the Callaway family, I'd recommend the X-22s. I'm in the beginner group, and I like them a lot. I hit lots of different irons before deciding on them, and I'm pleased so far.

There are in the GI category.

You can find them for good prices from reputable dealers on EBAY right now, and those may go down a bit in the next month or two as well.

In my X-Series Bag:

Driver G10 10.5*
Woods V-Steel 3W, 5W
Hybrids Pinemeadow ZR1 19* 3HIrons MX-19 4-GWWedge MP-R Black Nickel 54/10Putter Rossa Sebring AGSI+


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Like the poster above me said. If you like Callaways, look at the X-22s. When I had to narrow down to what Irons I wanted, it was between them and the Nike VRs. I loved the control I had with the Callaways, and even saw some distance with them (7 iron carrying 180 and finishing 200), needless to say I was impressed. The only reason I chose the Nikes over X-22s was because I saw the same control and more distance with them.
Driver - Sumo 5900 (9.5°) S
3W - 909 F2 (15.5°) X
Hybrid - 4DX Ironwood 3 (20°) S
Irons: 4-PW - Victory Reds Full Cavity S
Wedge - CG14 (56°)Putter - Red X5 35"Ball - e6+Scores with New Bag:95, 83, 86

Posted
20 yards of roll for a 7 iron? thats not good

in my bag
hibore xls 9.5* S flex
sumo2 sasquatch 3 wood 15*
a2os 3 hybrid
sc2 4-pw mpt raw haze 52* 588 56* wedge xtour PM grind 60* cleveland classic #2


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20 yards of roll for a 7 iron? thats not good

I was just estimating based on my two experiences with the club... On the range I was hitting the 180 with my buddy's X-22s, then when I was hitting them at Golf Galaxy on the computer (I don't even know how accurate these are) my ball would end around 200, hence why I listed the numbers as such.

Driver - Sumo 5900 (9.5°) S
3W - 909 F2 (15.5°) X
Hybrid - 4DX Ironwood 3 (20°) S
Irons: 4-PW - Victory Reds Full Cavity S
Wedge - CG14 (56°)Putter - Red X5 35"Ball - e6+Scores with New Bag:95, 83, 86

Posted
20 yards of roll for a 7 iron? thats not good

He might mean when using it to lay-up (in the fairway). 180-200 sounds like a pretty strong 7-iron either way. Who needs to hit a 170 yard pitching wedge? You'd need to carry 5 wedges.

Mizuno MP600 driver, Cleveland '09 Launcher 3-wood, Callaway FTiz 18 degree hybrid, Cleveland TA1 3-9, Scratch SS8620 47, 53, 58, Cleveland Classic 2 mid-mallet, Bridgestone B330S, Sun Mountain four5.


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180 yrd 7 iron, wow.

G5 9* w/Aldila NV Shaft
4DX +3 (13*)
3DX RC 2-Iwood 17*
i5 3-PW GREEN DOT w/Z-Z65 steel shafts
Ping Eye 2 XG SW & LW

Ping Zing G2 Putter

Hoofer 3 Bag

Nike ball (any)

Rounds this year:81: Granite Falls North84: Trilogy at Vistancia84: Falcon Golf Course82: Granite Falls South 82


Posted
180 yrd 7 iron, wow.

I'm young, so what can I say, it won't always be there

. Now my control... lets just call it a "work in progress."
Driver - Sumo 5900 (9.5°) S
3W - 909 F2 (15.5°) X
Hybrid - 4DX Ironwood 3 (20°) S
Irons: 4-PW - Victory Reds Full Cavity S
Wedge - CG14 (56°)Putter - Red X5 35"Ball - e6+Scores with New Bag:95, 83, 86

Posted
I switched to the Taylormade Tour Burners this year and love them. Don't be fooled by the name, they are still a game improvement club. I was playing Cobra FP's, which I liked, but wanted to move away from such a "big" clubhead. The benefits with the Burners are: slight increase in distance, more penetrating trajectory (NOT low!), and better playability from rough. These sets are going new on Ebay around $375-$400 now. Worth a look if you can find some to demo near you.

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I would recommend looking at clubs like Callaway X20, X22, Ping G5 & G10, Titleist AP1's, TaylorMade R7's, or Cobra FP's, which all offer playability and a good degree of forgiveness. If you can't break 100, you really should not be trying to "work the ball", just hit it straight.

:tmade: 09 Burner
:cobra: Speed LD F 3 wood
:cobra: Baffler 20 degree hybrid
:cobra: Baffler TWS 23 hy
:ping: G15 5-UW
:snake_eyes: 56 deg SW 
:snake_eyes: 60 - 12 wedge  
:scotty_cameron: Studio Select Newport 2


Posted
So as the season here gets closer to it's end ( at least in Canada ) I've started to comtemplate purchasing new irons. I figure I might as well take advantage of the season end opportunities ( demo days, other golfers unloading clubs etc )

Not to sound harsh, but why are you looking for a less forgiving club when you can barely break 100? A less forgiving club won't make you hit any better. If you want to hit better you need to practice. If you want to see where you hit the ball, get some impact tape and hit the range. On the course, wipe your club after every shot. You can generally see where you hit the ball on a clean club face. Aside from that, if you want to buy new clubs just to buy new clubs and support your local golf shop, go for it.

Posted
Maybe he wants to upgrade to irons that aren't quite so fugly.

Mizuno MP600 driver, Cleveland '09 Launcher 3-wood, Callaway FTiz 18 degree hybrid, Cleveland TA1 3-9, Scratch SS8620 47, 53, 58, Cleveland Classic 2 mid-mallet, Bridgestone B330S, Sun Mountain four5.


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