Plax goes to jail!!!!

[Bug Bunny]

I'm glad for once to see a guy go to jail for breaking the law and not getting special treatment for being famous!!!!!!


http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/9...rison-sentence


Do I remember right that he turned down like 18 months earlier in this process????

[CG031]

The sentence seems a bit long, but that's my opinion and it can be debated.

The fact of the matter is I can see WHY he had the gun with him, I don't think he planned on hurting anyone with it intentionally, but the fact of the matter is you just can't be roaming around NYC in clubs with unregistered guns.

And yeah, he could've gotten a shorter sentence if he didn't drag this thing out.

His career is probably over.

[kris]

The jail time is ridiculous in my opinion. Michael Vick got 20 months or so for killing dogs and Donte Stallworth got 30 days for DUI murder. while Plax is as big an idiot as they come, I don't see this as being very fair at all. he shot himself while Stallworth murdered someone else. I understand the gun laws in NYC are very strict but come on.

This quote got me:

"If Plaxico Burress were not a high-profile individual, there never would be a case," he said. "If he were just John Q Public, he could have walked out of the club and he never would have been arrested."

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...ryId=112062396

[pxc]

He deserves some sort of punishment but 2 years seems pretty stupid to me. They are making an example of him.

[ugottabjoshinme]

The jail time is ridiculous in my opinion. Michael Vick got 20 months or so for killing dogs and Donte Stallworth got 30 days for DUI murder. while Plax is as big an idiot as they come, I don't see this as being very fair at all. he shot himself while Stallworth murdered someone else. I understand the gun laws in NYC are very strict but come on.

I do disagree on this a little bit. While Stallworth was intoxicated, the intoxication did not affect the outcome....ie the man would have died if Stallworth was sober because he ran out from behind a bus right infront of Stallworth's car.

Plax did not get jail time for shooting himself. He got jail time for breaking numerous NYC gun laws.

[kris]

I do disagree on this a little bit. While Stallworth was intoxicated, the intoxication did not affect the outcome....ie the man would have died if Stallworth was sober because he ran out from behind a bus right infront of Stallworth's car.

I understand, but it still doesn't explain why officials were quoted as saying that if a normal person did this (brought a concealed weapon in to a club) they would have walked away without even being arrested. If this is the case, the judicial system is being far from objective in this particular case.

[enduro]

He almost killed another innocent man!

The bullet just missed a security guard by a couple inches from the accounts. If that bullet hits that man he's facing a lot more than 2 years and life if he kills him.

Stallworth's incident is completely different. He hit a guy in the road who shouldn't have been there.

Gun laws should be insanely strict because people die when things like this happen. You can't carry a gun in NYC and especially an unregistered one. I'm all for responsible gun ownership and think irresponsible gun ownership should be severally punished since you are proving you are way too irresponsible to be trusted with a deadly weapon.

We don't need trash like him in society dangerously carrying guns and letting them blast off in public.

[enduro]

I understand, but it still doesn't explain why officials were quoted as saying that if a normal person did this (brought a concealed weapon in to a club) they would have walked away without even being arrested. If this is the case, the judicial system is being far from objective in this particular case.

They, being Plaxicos' lawyer, said that if it was a regular guy, he wouldn't have been identified. Plaxico, with his celebrity status, was easily identified by others.

And he's 100% wrong. Does he think the police are complete morons? When whomever did this went to the hospital it would be reported. It is law all gunshot wounds have to be reported to the police by hospitals. And I'm pretty sure they would add this up. He didn't just bring a weapon in. He brought it in, loaded and without a safety on, dropped it from his wasitband like a complete idiot, it went off and shot him and the bullet almost killed another person. That sort of behavior is against the law in civilized nations. If anything it prevents him from breeding for 2 years.

[Bug Bunny]

He didn't just bring a weapon in. He brought it in, loaded and

Actually, it was a glock. Two internal safeties and one on the trigger but no external safeties. I assure you if the glock went off, he pulled the trigger.

[enduro]

Actually, it was a glock. Two internal safeties and one on the trigger but no external safeties. I assure you if the glock went off, he pulled the trigger.

Then he's an even bigger idiot than previously imagined. Thanks!

[Shindig]

If anything it prevents him from breeding for 2 years.

Hrmmm... no conjugal visits? Are we sure he won't breed while he's in there? Or did he drop the gun from his waistband and hit something more vital to the task?

[Heimer]

Idk.. This is america..

I carry a firearm most everywhere I go. I have a CPL, but for some reason it's only valid in a short list of other states.

Imo, it should function like a driver's license. You prove competency, are issued a permit, and the you're good in all fifty.

I mean, how silly would it be for my WA drivers license to invalid in NY, because the officials there somehow feel the roads are much more difficult to drive?

A bit of a tangent I suppose. Bit if I recall, Plax did have a CPL from another state.

[enduro]

Idk.. This is america..

Different states and municipalities have different needs. I'm all for responsible people owning guns, shooting them and making love to them or whatever it is they want to do. It's a right, after all.

But carrying weapons around publicly isn't guaranteed under any amendment. And I find it unnecessary for guns to be carried around in public, in public places. The statistical data proves that introducing guns into public, even by responsible people, only greatly increases the risk of someone being shot. No thank you. I'm happy I live in one of the last states that doesn't allow concealed carry.

[denver_nuggs_15]

The jail time is ridiculous in my opinion. Michael Vick got 20 months or so for killing dogs and Donte Stallworth got 30 days for DUI murder. while Plax is as big an idiot as they come, I don't see this as being very fair at all. he shot himself while Stallworth murdered someone else. I understand the gun laws in NYC are very strict but come on.

The crimes happened in different states. If they all happened in New York (or federally like Vick's did IIRC), the penalties would be totally different. Stallworth might have gotten like 10 years. But, the crimes happened in different states, so it's unfair to compare them.

If someone carries a pistol in public (concealed no less), he probably has the intention to use it. If he's going to protect himself, he damn well be ready to use it. And there's way too many people in NYC for authorities to allow that. I don't care if anyone endangers themselves, but the second they endanger the public, there's an issue for me. And that's exactly what Plax did...and he's lucky he didn't get 3 years like the DA wanted.

[Shindig]

Idk.. This is america..

This is America, and we have something called rule of law . This means people are responsible for the laws as they are , not as they want them to be. Just because you believe it should function like a driver's license doesn't mean that it does. What you're asking for is called judicial activism : asking the court system to change the laws based on what you want them to be, rather than going through the legislative process.

[whetstone]

Please cite your source for this statistic, or don't try to introduce something as fact that is not.

The statistical data proves that introducing guns into public, even by responsible people, only greatly increases the risk of someone being shot.

[enduro]

Please cite your source for this statistic, or don't try to introduce something as fact that is not.

There's plenty of studies and a search tool called Google that exist. You can easily find this.

An easier method is this: If you have a set of people and none of them have a gun with them, what are the possibilities that someone gets shot? This would call for a quotient and it would be "people with guns" / "total people". Since "people with guns" = 0, we get 0 / n = 0. If we have m people with guns and n total people, the possibilities of being shot are m/n. m / n > 0 when m =/= 0. Elementary.

[kris]

The crimes happened in different states. If they all happened in New York (or federally like Vick's did IIRC), the penalties would be totally different. Stallworth might have gotten like 10 years. But, the crimes happened in different states, so it's unfair to compare them.

Yes they happened in different states but it still doesn't stop the average person from wondering the lack of balance between 30 days for murder and 2 years for carrying a concealed weapon and doing harm to YOURSELF. I understand it's a state by state issue but just from an objective position it's hard to see balance with these two cases.