Letting people play on Ariated greens.

[Nickynoodles]

So i booked a tee time at Middletown Country Club 4 days in advance. They did not tell me they were ariating the greens. So we drive and show up for our tee time. Its normally 55 i think to play there, and the guy says its only $18 to play today we just ariated the greens. First off they should not let you play on greens in that condition second they should have told me when i made the tee time, i would have played a different course that day. So i say screw $18 bucks whatever lets play, we already drove all the way up there. I probablt would have broke 80 if the greens were not in that condition. I was driving a solid 275+ perfectly my iron play was amazing but the greens killed me. I finished with a 90 and that score will not be going towards my handicapp. Heres a picture of the greens. http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pi...&id;=1001296396
I hit a 7 iron par 3 165 yards. Hit the hill in the backround of the sand trap and rolled right by the pin. Luckily i hit the Birdie putt and i think that was my only Birdie of the day. I love this course and i normally put up my best scores there. How would you guys/girls feel in my situation. With them taking my tee time and not warning of the conditions till i drove all the way up there and all. Im a little P.Oed and even tho i love the course im thinking of taking my business elsewhere. What would you do?

[Big_M]

Most courses I know don't close for aieration... they might close for a day, but people still play on them. However, it usually is at a reduced rate, and they chould be telling you this when you make your tee time.

[flanagan]

I agree, if they knew they were going to aerate , they should have told you when you made the tee time, that's only fair. Sounds like you got a good deal on green fees, though.

I think you carry things a little too far when you want us to condemn them for letting you play on the greens at all. People play on aerated greens all the time, you certainly have if you've ever played golf in the fall. If you had a concern about the use of the course because of your play, you should have not played, not try to turn your use back on the course as a way of complaining.

I don't understand the take your business elsewhere thing either. If that's your regular course, then you should know that's part of their maintenance. If you are that upset they didn't tell you in advance, that's certainly your call. If it's not your regular course, they won't miss you.

Aeration is a fact of life where I live. I expect it and deal with it, not like you are playing in a tournament.

[lumpuckeroo]

My home course, will aerate front and back nine on different weeks, they will close the nine they are aerating for the day. They usually notify the caller when they make a tee time that greens were aerated, if not, I can understand your frustration.

[Clambake]

I guess I don't understand your indignation about this. It's normal (and required) for courses to aerate their greens at least once, sometimes twice a year. If they closed during that time they'd lose a lot of revenue, and many are struggling as it is. Perhaps they should have told you when you made the tee time, but often the reservations people aren't fully aware of the maintenance schedule, and sometimes the aeration times need to be moved around a few days according to conditions and availability of work crews. And they gave you a really great deal at $18. In my area (southern California) it is somewhat rare for a course to give a discount for aeration, and when they do it is usually only 10-15% off or less - they gave you a 2/3 off discount which is amazing. And it looks like they did a pretty tidy job of aeration, without a lot of damage to the green, so it shouldn't have killed your game all that much. All told, it sounds like a more than fair treatment by the course.

[AmenCorner]

I think it is fair that they tell you, but still you are over reacting a bit. And why not post towards your handicap? Are you one of those vanity guys?

I remember playing Meadowbrook Farms in Houston a few years back. I was really looking forward to playing b/c I had read a bunch about it, greg norman course.

Anyways, we're out there playing on the 8th hole when this onslaught of carts starts coming from the clubhouse. They were having a big scramble. We sat on the 8th tee for 25 minutes and they were still on the hole. We went back to the pro shop and got a 9 hole refund. I told the guy how I felt but no more than that. Probably just a mistake they didn't say something.

[Nickynoodles]

I agree, if they knew they were going to

I asked how you guys would feel not being notified of it when making your tee time. Not if i could listen to you complain about my post. Never once asked oyu to condemn them. You will not even play there in your lifetime. Noone was notified of the aeration going on it was brought up when we got there and i was also not complaining asking how people would feel about not being told then driving an hour there to play. You are the only one complaining, you actually sound like a 9 year old girl from reading your post. Im taking it to far asking you to condemn them. Haha them words never even came close to anything i wrote in post. You must have a screw loose.

[Nickynoodles]

My home course, will aerate front and back nine on different weeks, they will close the nine they are aerating for the day. They usually notify the caller when they make a tee time that greens were aerated, if not, I can understand your frustration.

Yea that was my man problem. We had a few guys take off work for the trip and set the whole thing up about 4-5 days in advance if we were told about it we would have just booked somewhere else. It was jsut odd that we walked in there and they told us right on the spot. A warning would have been nice.

[sacm3bill]

Originally Posted by flanagan

I think you carry things a little too far when you want us to condemn them for letting you play on the greens at all.

Well, except for when you said this:

First off they should not let you play on greens in that condition...

...unless you thought flanagan meant "condemn" in the biblical/theological sense. Eternal damnation, etc. That would be a bit harsh, I agree.

You will not even play there in your lifetime.

Not sure how that's relevant.

You are the only one complaining...

Well, except for when you said this:

They should have told me when i made the tee time, i would have played a different course that day.

Incidentally,

You actually sound like a 9 year old girl from reading your post...

If I had to bet on who was the 9 year old in this thread, it would not be the guy you're responding to.

Anyway, yeah, would've been nice if they had let you know in advance, but note that a lot of courses don't even offer a reduced rate. - Bill

[flanagan]

I asked how you guys would feel not being notified of it when making your tee time. Not if i could listen to you complain about my post. Never once asked oyu to condemn them. You will not even play there in your lifetime. Noone was notified of the aeration going on it was brought up when we got there and i was also not complaining asking how people would feel about not being told then driving an hour there to play. You are the only one complaining, you actually sound like a 9 year old girl from reading your post. Im taking it to far asking you to condemn them. Haha them words never even came close to anything i wrote in post. You must have a screw loose.

"First off they should not let you play on greens in that condition" (your complaint, not mine) -- you were condemning them, and asking how we would feel in your "situation" (which included your suggesting they were somehow wrong for even letting you play). I choose to have the opinion that you were wrong and hypocritical in complaining about that. Seemed a little irrational, and after reading the above, now I have some insight into that.

You didn't limit your complaining to the nondisclosure (which I agreed with you on, if they knew when you booked). Something tells me to be glad I wasn't the guy behind the desk.

[glebert]

I played today on my normal goat track 9 hole course, and don't expect much as far as condition, but twice had long putts through patches of sand. First one on a downhill putt it goes maybe halfway to the hole and stops dead. Next one was a little uphill so I give it a better whack and of course it sails way past the hole. Three putted both times. Like they said, it's golf.

[becksfan2185]

There's a good website out there at www.greenskeeper.org that has notifications when they aerate the greens or there is other course maintenance going on. It lists all the courses in the area and they'll even email alerts to you if any of your favorite courses are undergoing anything major.

I've gotten in the habit of checking it before making a teetime. For the record though, the picture you linked looked like pretty typical areation. Bummer they didn't warn you, but at least they gave you a discount... they don't at the course I play at.

[max power]

It's an inconvenience, but they vastly reduced the fee. You didn't shoot well and you're whining.

[Cussin hacker]

I'd have been glad to play for the $18. Courses can't afford to shut down when they work the greens. At least they gave you a break on the cost. I've played greens just like that and got no break at all. Should they have told you when you made your T time. Maybe, but it's really not that big of a deal.

[iacas]

The original poster asked me to delete this thread because he doesn't like the responses he's getting. Not gonna happen...

You got a reduced rate and they told you they were aerating when you arrived. It's quite possible they didn't even know they would be aerating until that morning - it's often scheduled for a certain time and then the decision is made each morning based on the forecast.

You paid $18, one third of the regular rate, and in my experience there's no way aerated greens add 11+ strokes to your round. No way.

I'd have been bummed, perhaps, and I might have said "I wish you had told me four days ago if you guys knew then," but again, you paid 1/3 the price and... I dunno, it's just not that big a deal.

[Rob]

Get over it! Play,or go home.

[max power]

The original poster asked me to delete this thread because he doesn't like the responses he's getting. Not gonna happen...

Exactly-if they tried to charge full price a little bit of a hissy-fit might have been in order. But they didn't, and he doesn't have to return to the course if he's still unhappy with the way they handled things. I've played on aerated greens more than once, might add a few strokes via increased putts, but if you're playing well you're playing well.

[Greg]

one course I play at the greens look worse than that all the time but ive gotten used to it and it doesnt cost much to play