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kpaulhus

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Leftygolfer Great Member

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Last year I had made a mistake and bought the MP 60s because I got a good deal and they are great looking irons. I had them for less than 1 year and my index went from an 8 to a 11. I don't think you should buy the irons for the player you want to be. Buy something that fits your needs now and you can improve with. I don't have the time or money to play much more than 30 rounds a year and with the mizunos, if I mishit them just a bit they would come up 20 yards short.

By the way, I love my new irons. They are discontinued and an older model. A good mix of forgiveness and playability.

That is my .02. I am going to lose some money in the deal but I had to make a change. The Mizunos flight was not right for me and I lost almost a club. I have only had my new irons for 2 weeks and I can already see my scores are going to be better. I putted like a dog and shot my best score in months.

Brian


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The less forgiveness a club has, the more you have to work on your ball striking, which isn't exactly a bad thing.

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Leftygolfer Great Member

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The less forgiveness a club has, the more you have to work on your ball striking, which isn't exactly a bad thing.

Your index going up 3 points is. Who has all this time? I have a 8 month golf season if that.

I would rather shot a 75 with the same ball striking than an 80 and use some "players" irons so I come up 25 yards short and have less than a 30% of getting up and down. This game is about number of shots. You wouldn't rather be an 11 than 16. A 7 instead of an 11??? I like getting away with my misses and getting an iron I can actually enjoy on most shots and not the 1 in 5 I actually pure. And for some real data. My index went down .5 in one revision. First time all season. I like that :)

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My goal is to hit 100% of my shots pure. I'll never get there, but who says I can't try? And the lack of forgiveness is something I don't buy into either. I haven't played regularly with anything less forgiving than my MP-57's, but I have tried various blade irons. When moving from CGI to MP-57's I didn't notice any difference. When trying blades I feel the mishits more and they might not come up as far, but not 25 yards short.

The ball reacts to where it meets the clubhead, which is a two-way equation. Horisontally and vertically. With a consistent swing, hitting somewhat the same spot over and over is not impossible. And it's not like you have to hit on the pin of a needle or it'll go 25 yards short, every club has forgiveness, some just have more of it.

But it's up to each and everyone of course. I don't play golf to shoot low scores, I play golf to get so good that I can shoot low scores consistently. If I have to hit it bad in the progress, so be it.

Who says you can't get as low in handicap with a players iron? I haven't even mentioned type of clubs either, just that less forgiveness is not something that automatically jump your index by 3.

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kpaulhus Great Member

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My index has gone from a 19.1 to 17.1 in 2 months so I must be striking the ball better....or maybe my course management has improved that I can know where or what to use. I know my putting has been sort of consistant (30-33)

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Leftygolfer Great Member

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I am going from experience. Maybe your MP 57s are much more forgiving than my MP 60s that I am selling. I thought they were very similar. But I know when I missed it off the toe at all I was coming up 25 yards short with what I KNOW was the right club.

I play golf for fun, I play to compete and challenge myself, I play to shoot the best possible scores I can. I had the irons I mentioned above and I found I was in very hard up and down situations often. Maybe I missed them worse than someone else of my same handicap level, not sure. But what I know is I shot my best score I have in 3 months after going to the range for 45 minutes to get a little feel for them and then having one of the worst putting days. That tells me something.

I just can't believe your goal or any golfers goal is not to score well. Having a great round is so much fun. And for me a great round is all about momentum. When I miss one and get it up and down it keeps it going. When I missed one with my old set I was in spots that it was unlikely even though my strongest part of my game is my shortgame. 25 yard pitches are hard to get close.

I know I will not in the forseeable future be any better than a 7 or so because of life obligations and money. But if I can shot in the 70s I sure will enjoy that one round a week I play and with what I am now playing I think I have a much better shot. That is what matters to me. Playing to how I expect to play more often than not.

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I don't play golf to shoot low scores, I play golf to get so good that I can shoot low scores consistently

What does this mean? Don't you have to shoot low scores to consistantly shoot low scores? That is why I changed.

Brian


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Of course everoyone plays for lower scores, it's equal with a lower handicap. I have fun on the course, but I will never be satisfied with my game. It's fun to get up and down, but when I get one, I am more annoyed at missing the green than I enjoy getting the par. The most fun part of golf for me is to get better. Low scores is a product of consistently good play. I'd rather hit 18 GIRs and shooting 10 over than 5 over with 10 GIRs.

I am currently 95% focused on my long game, so a good and fun round for me is playing that part of the game well. Doesn't matter if I three putt all the way to the 19th hole.

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Of course everoyone plays for lower scores, it's equal with a lower handicap. I have fun on the course, but I will never be satisfied with my game. It's fun to get up and down, but when I get one, I am more annoyed at missing the green than I enjoy getting the par. The most fun part of golf for me is to get better. Low scores is a product of consistently good play. I'd rather hit 18 GIRs and shooting 10 over than 5 over with 10 GIRs.

To each there own. I love the short game the most of any part of golf. I will hit more greens than I used to as a product of my irons not punishing me anymore.

I will have more fun. I like the 70s.

Brian


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I haven't met the 70's yet, but I'm sure I will love them when that moment arrives, which I hope won't be too far away.

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Leftygolfer Great Member

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They are sweet. Best of luck to you. If you hit 9 GIR/round you are one heck of a player FYI.

I miss them dearly and hope to meet on sunday in the cold cincinnati air. It is going to be a high of 50.

Brian


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Good luck to you guys! Lady 70's is still playing hard to get for me!

Jim

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