Ever played with some hacker who won't take advice?

[chilly]

Just to follow up on all of the response that are greatly appreciated..........imagine you meet a guy and his buddy playing at a course you've played three times. He three putts 5 of the first 6 holes. Four putts hole 7, hits a perfect wedge into a short par 3 misses a 5 footer (still 2 putts tho) 3 putts 9,10,11,12 .......two putts 13........then 3 putts to finish the round. Offered a tip on hole 11.......a-hole about it.......tosses 200+ dollar putter into pond........(bad day putting??? dont think so. My 5 year old daughter could luck in more putts than this guy made. At $43 dollars for 18 and a cart I figured it out that it woud have cost him about 16 dollars to everyone that plays in our usual sunday game....about 20 plus play so he would have shelled out about $320 to everyone combined for all of his three putts and one four putt..............grand total of $363............wouldnt u wanna tip??

You should listen to the overwhelming majority of responses and just understand that no matter how blatant it is that a guy could use your help, it's not appropriate to give him unsolicited advice while he's playing. If he wanted a tip, he'd ask.

[Gambler]

You should listen to the overwhelming majority of responses and just understand that no matter how blatant it is that a guy could use your help, it's not appropriate to give him unsolicited advice while he's playing. If he wanted a tip, he'd ask.

I guess I disagree with a lot of you. The OP didn't give the guy advice, he asked if he wanted advice. The guy responded no. It didn't sound like he was pestering him the whole round. I've had people do this same thing to me before, but I'm the kind of person who accepts tips. I've gotten some nice pointers over the course of time!

[sean_miller]

Just to follow up on all of the response that are greatly appreciated..........imagine you meet a guy and his buddy playing at a course you've played three times. He three putts 5 of the first 6 holes. Four putts hole 7, hits a perfect wedge into a short par 3 misses a 5 footer (still 2 putts tho) 3 putts 9,10,11,12 .......two putts 13........then 3 putts to finish the round. Offered a tip on hole 11.......a-hole about it.......tosses 200+ dollar putter into pond........(bad day putting??? dont think so. My 5 year old daughter could luck in more putts than this guy made. At $43 dollars for 18 and a cart I figured it out that it woud have cost him about 16 dollars to everyone that plays in our usual sunday game....about 20 plus play so he would have shelled out about $320 to everyone combined for all of his three putts and one four putt..............grand total of $363............wouldnt u wanna tip??

I think the best tip would be not to play in your "usual sunday game".

Who cares why, or how, you offered the advice - if it was flavoured with the attitude contained in the thread title?

[Scots Golf]

i wasnt saying i made every putt attempted but im a decent putter with great technique.....its advice only.....why play if you dont wanna get better???

I think you like the sound of your own voice.

[alf174]

I think you like the sound of your own voice.

lol, I almost bit on that one but bit my tongue instead.

[The Road Dog]

Op, step back and think about it. The guy was not playing like anyone you know who is familiar with the game. Consistent three putting shows a serious lack of form, technique and knowledge. That tells me that despite his having some clubs, shoes etc, he is not a golfer. Put yourself in that situation and ask would you be out on a course doing that. I think the answer for everyone here would be no, at one point I was but I practiced and got better. What I'm getting at is if the type of play being shown is not understandable according to what you know then his reaction to what you try to do on his behalf is not likely to be what you expect either. Hence the nice Cameron getting wet. You didn't see that coming and didn't understand or appreciate it. Based upon your post and your defense of your actions I think the situation offered you a learning opportunity that you missed. IMHO

[Fairway_CY]

This thread brought me right back to my first round at the end of March. I was having a tough time early on with my putting (three putt on first hole and several missed ten footers before a four putt from six feet). One of the guys I was playing with started tossing out how he learned to putt, etc. He was doing it purposely because we were in match play and he was trying to get me off my game... but the best part about it was when he started missing a bunch of three footers later in the round. He suddenly stopped talking about it.

Whether it was intentional or not... when you offer advice to people who are already frustrated, it's going to take them FURTHER off their game. I think the guy you played with handled it really poorly, but... still - I can understand his frustration in the end when you offered to give him the three footer that he ended up missing. That'd probably send me over the edge, too.

CY

[ericstamper]

post should have originally said-------- Ever played with some hacker who said "WTF am I doing wrong"-------- through the first front nine. And then offered "u want a tip?" a few holes later............ I like the responses im getting. i said it one time (you wanna tip) never again did i mention it.

[sean_miller]

post should have originally said-------- Ever played with some hacker who said "WTF am I doing wrong"-------- through the first front nine. And then offered "u want a tip?" a few holes later............ I like the responses im getting. i said it one time (you wanna tip) never again did i mention it.

On the other hand, how many holes did you watch him struggle and ask "WTF am I doing wrong" before you asked "u want a tip"? There is no right answer when someone has a golf meltdown - just stand back and try not to get any on ya.

[Rexx]

Eh... I wouldn't worry about it too much. Personally, I don't offer advice to anyone -- even my own partner if we're playing a friendly 2-on-2 game. I happily give advice to our opponents, though. But really, it's pretty rare that I/we are paired up with strangers, so I guess my chances of a golf faux pas are limited.

[Ping for life]

Sorry to pile on and I do believe your intentions where good BUT! the others are right it is always best to keep ones advice to himself unless it has been solicited. Even then unless it is something so blatenly obvious I believe the best response is. "I am still working out the kniks in my own game, and since my last name is not Haney I don't feel I am qualified to give advice." This way if some piece of advice given completely screws him or her up more I cannot be blaimed for it.