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So ive always thought that to chip just usa a putter stroke. With that i could never get the ball UP more than a few inches. Well last week I hurt my shoulder playing hockey and my doctor told me I couldn't play golf or hockey for two to four weeks so I have just been messing around in the back yard and I finaly learned how to get the ball up.

I was reading someone elses post the other day and realized that I hadnt always kept my weight on my front foot. Once i did that I was hitting it more consistent and not fatting/skulling the ball anymore but still not UP enough for my liking. So then rather than using a putter stroke I started to just flip my wrist at it and WOW I finally learned how to chip. It was amazing who would have ever thought an injury would help me actually get better at golf. I hope that know when I can finally go back to the course I can remember all the things that I learned while goofing around in the backyard.

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The Story is for you if...

• You often hit your chips fat or thin
• Your chips fly too far or too short of your target
• Your chipping impact sounds like a "thud" instead of a "click"

The Solution

You have an easy up-and-down opportunity from light rough, but you blade your ball across the green.

Why did I do that?

You hit up into the ball instead of down and through it. You could have just as easily caught it fat.

How to stop doing it

As with most shots, you can eliminate the majority of your errors if you make sure your setup is correct (turn the page to learn how). The goal of your chipping address position is to situate your body, arms, hands and club to create a descending blow without chunking the clubhead into the ground, or striking the ball with the leading edge of the clubface. Your setup and technique are correct if your impact position looks like this.

Key Move - Clubhead Low

Compare the height of the ball with the height of the clubhead: The ball is high and the clubhead is still very low to the ground. This proves that a downward strike—not an upward flip—gets the ball rolling up the clubface and into the air.

SHOULDER DOWN

An easy way to create the desired descending blow is to keep your left shoulder down through impact. Don't raise your left shoulder—keep it low and square to your target line.

WRIST FLAT

You won't chip well if you flip your hands through impact or bend your wrists. Your left wrist should be as flat as possible. If you have trouble keeping your left wrist from breaking down, try using your putting grip.
TOE CLOSE

Although your hands should be passive and your left wrist straight, they do need to rotate so that the club turns over on its heel through impact. Try to smoothly rotate the toe of the cub toward your target (don't jerk it) as you swing through the impact area.

WEIGHT FORWARD

At address, distribute the majority of your weight over your left foot and, more importantly, keep it there throughout your stroke. If you hang back on your right side, you'll swing up into impact—and that's the problem that got you here in the first place.

Set up for Solid Chips

Get the toe of the club up and the handle forward for a solid, consistent chipping stroke



Read more: http://www.golf.com/golf/instruction...#ixzz0kRV81UYL

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Great read! Thanks for posting! I have the yips...

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Did that this monday... Sandwedge, wanted to see were the ball went before it left the clubface, it goes rolling off the back of the green. Luckily i got up and down for bogie, but i hate that... Practice Practice Practice..

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I found the same thing, weight on the left side, stare at the back of the ball, and miraculously the ball has a great trajectory and is struck pure. I will start looking up or trying to "help" the ball when I'm in the middle of the round and get the inevitable skull, or thinned shot that rolls out a ton.

Now I'm trying to figure out how to hit off the thin lies we get this time of year before the grass comes in.

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Don't forget that around the greens you need to be able to control not only the landing point but the hight,trajectory,spin. If someone actually asked me my chipping mechanics, I wouldn't be able to show them because I probably have 50 different ways to chip the ball. I also noticed that you do not really have a wedge set. I think "iron wedges" (wedges that come with an iron set) are a plague among inexperienced golfers. Your wedges are the most important scoring clubs in your bag (other than putter obviously), so I would suggest in investing in real wedges like voks or Clevelands or Mizzy MPTs etc. That will really help your short game.
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I can concur. DO NOT FLIP. Requires too much timing every single time and will lead to inconsistency. I use the putter stroke, body aimed slightly left (right handed golfer) and weight on my front foot.

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