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lol ooookkkkkkk

Its ok I just dont agree with you, Like I said Im all for good instruction but this isnt it IMO. Look at this picture for example, look how the shaft can be distorted in motion. The shaft is going alot faster than your arms so the camera doesnt show it as a straight line always. In my experience you look at were the shaft first appears. Look at this picture from your swing for example.


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ok you're right. you don't flip at all. you have possibly one of the best impact positions ever.

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ok you're right. you don't flip at all. you have possibly one of the best impact positions ever.

is that what you say when I back it up, you come back with a smart comment. I appreciate good instruction and I think you give good instruction many times on this forum. In this case, I dont agree. I do think I could use some better lag, arm straightness and extension but Im not overly focused on this right now. Lets move on,


is that what you say when I back it up, you come back with a smart comment. I appreciate good instruction and I think you give good instruction many times on this forum. In this case, I dont agree. I do think I could use some better lag, arm straightness and extension but Im not overly focused on this right now. Lets move on,

well, i bet to differ when you say you "backed it up." I still see your impact position with a flip. A small one, but its definitely not extended throughout. a small flip, very much pronounced by your lack of lag as well as chicken wing.

again, truth of the matter is, you shouldn't be flipping until you're well past impact point. but you say you're not focused on that right now, so ok, guess thats something you can work on later on.

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well, i bet to differ when you say you "backed it up." I still see your impact position with a flip. A small one, but its definitely not extended throughout. a small flip, very much pronounced by your lack of lag as well as chicken wing.

so am I flipping in the picture I posted of a few frames later?


yes...yes you are flipping. again, very slightly, but flippy none the less.



here's almost the exact same frame from my clip. notice the difference.



also, one more thing i noticed...are you finishing your swing on your toes of your left foot? looks as if you're on the ball of your foot, turned and pointed forward?

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yes...yes you are flipping. again, very slightly, but flippy none the less.

only difference I see is you are more leaned back with a straighter left arm, but you are hitting a driver as well. Im not concerned right now with it. If golf evolution gives me some instruction next that pinpoints this, then I will work on it. Other than that Im just following step by step.


only difference I see is you are more leaned back with a straighter left arm, but you are hitting a driver as well. Im not concerned right now with it. If golf evolution gives me some instruction next that pinpoints this, then I will work on it. Other than that Im just following step by step.

driver, iron, wedge, the impact position shouldn't change. likewise, you don't see the obvious difference between the angle between your left arm and the shaft and my left arm/shaft? its almost the complete opposite. thats the point i'm getting at. If you look at your frame without the white line, your wrist is very slightly flipped while mine is very slightly bowed...

if you're not seeing this difference than...yeah i don't even know how to address that.

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driver, iron, wedge, the impact position shouldn't change. likewise, you don't see the obvious difference between the angle between your left arm and the shaft and my left arm/shaft? its almost the complete opposite. thats the point i'm getting at. If you look at your frame without the white line, your wrist is very slightly flipped while mine is very slightly bowed...

No I dont think theres much substance there. Its really being nitpicky as I guarentee my shot would be the exact same


lol ok wow. i'm dont even know how to respond anymore. the fact that you call the difference between a bowed and cupped wrist "nit-picking" just goes to show how little you know.

but i digress, lets just drop it. you're right. your swing is great. you don't flip at all. your left arm and shaft is extended through impact. you have a great impact position, go motteler!

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for all of these videos...you need to be hitting balls...rarely does someone swing the same when theyre hitting that little white ••••••• i like to call a golf ball...theres times I'm feeling my nice draw practice swing....step up to the ball and some ugly stuff comes out
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for all of these videos...you need to be hitting balls...rarely does someone swing the same when theyre hitting that little white ••••••• i like to call a golf ball...theres times I'm feeling my nice draw practice swing....step up to the ball and some ugly stuff comes out

Ha-ha, good point. My beautiful, full extension, smooth practice swing has more than once produced a complete shank when I've tried it after addressing the ball.


for all of these videos...you need to be hitting balls...rarely does someone swing the same when theyre hitting that little white ••••••• i like to call a golf ball...theres times I'm feeling my nice draw practice swing....step up to the ball and some ugly stuff comes out

yea I know what you mean about the practice swing being different than hitting a ball. I'm actually hitting a ball in all these videos tho. Most, actually all,of them are recordings for submitions to golf evolution for instruction


check mine out...I just put up 10 videos from today....point out some flaws!
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check mine out...I just put up 10 videos from today....point out some flaws!

lol, il have to tomorrow, I'm on my palm pre. Look forward to viewing them tho. IMO tho having random people give their imput on flaws doesn't do much good. It's best to get a good instructor and listen to him only. When you get all these people throwing things at you, it doesn't really take you through a good step by step process of improving. Btw I just now got what you said about hitting balls. Yea we try to practice these new positions alot before we move on with a new video


also, one more thing i noticed...are you finishing your swing on your toes of your left foot? looks as if you're on the ball of your foot, turned and pointed forward?

I dont normally do that, on that video I did for some reason. I was working on lateral push in my swing and I think I ended up weird on that foot. Here is another screen shot doing the same lateral push and I ended up flat so I dont normally do it.


I think your swing is looking better and better. Are the evolver guys having you avoid extending past impact? It looks like you begin to fold in your left arm pretty quickly, and it's creeping into your impact position.

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I think your swing is looking better and better. Are the evolver guys having you avoid extending past impact? It looks like you begin to fold in your left arm pretty quickly, and it's creeping into your impact position.

no we havent got that far yet. I noticed I did that too in the caddy view video I posted. Il try to extend more through impact tho


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