Casting Move *videos*

[soSoJeffCC]

Hi everyone, just joined the forum a couple of days ago. I picked up golf when I was 12 with a full year of lessons, and played through high school on the team and such. Once college hit, I completely dropped the game, and now that I've graduated and joined the corporate world, I'm trying to pick up my game again.

My main gripe is this casting move I have at the top to start my downswing. I could not feel this at all, until I took some videos and looked at myself. You can see my before swing below. I then decided to take a lesson to get a couple pointers. The instructor's teaching philosopy wasn't based too much on mechanics, so my slight casting move wasn't touched upon. Instead, we worked on getting my hips firing better, increasing my swingspeed resulting in a much crisper and compressing impact on the ball.

While the results of the lesson were satisfying, I'd still like to see if I can eliminate my casting move. The second video is my swing after my lesson, and to my surprise, the casting move was still there. I could have sworn that I felt like I was dropping my arms into the "slot" with initiating the downswing with my hips. But I was wrong. As you can see, there is the initial cast, but I'm somehow able to make up for it and get the clubhead coming a little bit from the inside.

How do I work on eliminating this casting, especially if I can't feel it at all?? I'd really appreciate any help I can get with this frustrating flaw.

Swing before lesson:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjahNc2m6pQ

Swing after lesson:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJFXG9pUKyY

Slow motion:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VG6wQknnDlc

[Steven McFarlane]

Nice stuff mate


Cant see anything wrong

[iacas]

It's not casting so much as a hitch at the top, or a wiggle. The club goes from the left to the right very quickly (horizontally) at the top of your backswing. I only watched the slow-mo video and I only watched it twice, but something's weird there. It's just not a pure "casting" move per se.

[allin]

I don't know whats right or wrong, But it appears that you take the club back very well and then at the top after you have finished turning there is a little more movement with your hands, then use your hands to bring you back to your orignial swing plane and go from there. It reminds me of Larry Nelson on the senior tour. I doubt it is hurting you. It may be a tempo thing, the way you pause at the top to set yourself for the downswing? Film yourself making some 3/4 swings or pitch shots and see if it is still there?

[SCMike]

I agree that it's not casting, per se. You could try feeling like you're pausing at the top, just for a second, so that your hands can set in a steady position.

Also, a good swing thought for getting the club down the line is thinking about pulling the butt of the grip straight down. When you get to the top, pretend that you're holding a rope that rings a bell...simply pull it straight down to "ring the bell"

hope this helps...I know it helps me when I'm getting a little to much movement on top

[soSoJeffCC]

thanks for the help guys!

Can't wait to hit the range.

Another thing I'm gonna be working on is not having my left arm breaking down. I'm losing way too much power from breaking down and losing the width.

[ragontona]

Is your ball flight usually pretty high, with a little fade?

In all actuality, your swing looks a lot like mine, but I stop a little short of parallel. My elbow would break down at the top like yours if I took it that far back. I keep it (my left elbow) a little straighter -- it helps me control the club a little better, plus I feel like I generate more clubhead speed because I'm able to maintain some tension before I release down the line.

In fact, looking at that video a little closer, that little shimmy at the top looks like it's caused (at least in part) by the elbow breaking down at the top of your backswing. Maybe work on shortening it a little, see what kind of results that yields you...

[soSoJeffCC]

yeah I would say my ball flight was pretty high with a slight fade.

thanks for the tips :)

[soSoJeffCC]

Fixed my swing!!!!!

I've regained my old feel back! I'm super excited. I think I've gotten rid of that hitch at the top. Now it feels like i'm coming at it alot better from the inside path. Slowed down my tempo and hitting it at 50% really helped too. Here's the new swing....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRxiK5lTxuQ

Now I need to work on upping the swingspeed, and staying grounded a lil better. You can see that upon impact, I'm actually on my tippytoes. Pretty ugly.

Thanks for all the help guys.

[allin]

Much better, I don't know if it is cause or effect, but your left foot is spinning out. You might try to figure out why? You don't seem to be over swinging, the usual cause. Maybe you could try planting left heel first, before you roll off your back foot. I don't know? I don't want to screw up your timing / tempo which is good.

[soSoJeffCC]

Yeah I'm having a problem where I'm rising upon impact. Definitely need to pay closer attention to it next time at the range.