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I like that they come out with clubs every 4 month because it makes the 1 yr old club cost like $100-150..

Competition is good for the consumer! There is nothing that says there is a shorter life span on the material and design of the club they made, right? By them putting out new clubs frequently it does lessen the likelihood YOU have the latest and greatest club on the market in your eyes tho :). I'll hit newer drivers from TM but this one is likely to stay in my bag for a few years.


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This is so dumb....

My average drive is 246 yards. Ironically, everyone on here called me a short hitter! That gave me a laugh. I guess people don't understand what average means. Even so, 246 is a pretty long average. My clubhead speed (real numbers, of course) is around 110, but on the internet, apparently that's slow, even though the club fitters recommend X flex shafts. Oh well


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My average drive is 246 yards. Ironically, everyone on here called me a short hitter! That gave me a laugh. I guess people don't understand what average means. Even so, 246 is a pretty long average. My clubhead speed (real numbers, of course) is around 110, but on the internet, apparently that's slow, even though the club fitters recommend X flex shafts. Oh well

Your average drive is still 246? That's what it was in April - you are one consistent mofo!!

Mizuno MP600 driver, Cleveland '09 Launcher 3-wood, Callaway FTiz 18 degree hybrid, Cleveland TA1 3-9, Scratch SS8620 47, 53, 58, Cleveland Classic 2 mid-mallet, Bridgestone B330S, Sun Mountain four5.


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246 is a good average. I read somewhere that the average male swings the club at 84mph and drives 195y. The "internet average" on this forum seems to be somewhere around 280. People are just plain lying (I'm sure most of the indexes listed here are lower than acutal as well). I hold a driving average of 254 yards, and my average 7 Iron carries 162. In real life, I have been called a "long hitter" many times. Once joining this forum, I looked at some peoples "averages" and felt very short, but then quickly realized alot of them are chuck full of BS.

However, this guy is claming he hit a 300y 3-wood one time, and after seeing his swing, I don't find it that hard to believe. My dad has a very wierd swing with a very slow tempo, a really lazy left elbow, and a very odd stance yet just the other day I watched him drive a 316y green, pin high. I've also seen him put many a 3-wood over the back fence at the range. Just because someones swing isn't prefect doesn't mean that they can't get the occasional long ball.
Driver: taylormade.gif R9 Superdeep TP 8.5* - Aldila RIP 70x | 3-Wood: taylormade.gif R9 TP 15* - Diamana Blueboard 83x | Hybrid: taylormade.gif Rescue TP 19* - Motore F3 95x | Irons: taylormade.gif RAC TP MB 3-PW - Dynamic Gold x100 | Wedges: taylormade.gif TP xFT 54.12* and 60.10* - Dynamic Gold s400 | Putter:  ping.gif Karsten Anser - 33"

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Your average drive is still 246? That's what it was in April - you are one consistent mofo!!

I haven't re-measured it. I have played like twice since then, I tore my ACL, and I've just been too busy. Ill update it someday.

However, this guy is claming he hit a 300y 3-wood one time, and after seeing his swing, I don't find it that hard to believe. My dad has a very wierd swing with a very slow tempo, a really lazy left elbow, and a very odd stance yet just the other day I watched him drive a 316y green, pin high. I've also seen him put many a 3-wood over the back fence at the range. Just because someones swing isn't prefect doesn't mean that they can't get the occasional long ball.

This is true, but I've been here a while, and I've seen a lot of double digit handicaps making ridiculous claims left and right. Most people, on a

good drive, hit it maybe 250. I've seen people hit a driver 240 and claim it must be near 300 yards. I myself have hit drivers 200 yards, and literally had people tell me I must have hit that one 270. With my 110 mph swing, the most I can carry a golf ball at sea level is about 265 yards. Distance is imagined more than it's real. People who play on flat courses with GPSs know better.

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I haven't re-measured it. I have played like twice since then, I tore my ACL, and I've just been too busy. Ill update it someday.

Oh yeah, I forgot about that. And btw - friggin' ouch!! I have a friend who's been struggling with that for years. Has to get custom made skates.

EDIT - I read ACL and my brain saw achilles. My bad. Either way - good luck on the recovery.

Mizuno MP600 driver, Cleveland '09 Launcher 3-wood, Callaway FTiz 18 degree hybrid, Cleveland TA1 3-9, Scratch SS8620 47, 53, 58, Cleveland Classic 2 mid-mallet, Bridgestone B330S, Sun Mountain four5.


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Sorry about your knee Shanks. Hope you get back to playing soon.

Clawing back towards the topic, neither of the Superfasts feels quite right to me in the hand. Of the TM drivers, I prefer the more solid heft of the SuperTri.

Stretch.

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Sorry about your knee Shanks. Hope you get back to playing soon.

The whole burner series looks awful at address too. I hit the tour issued Burner, and while it performed well, it felt and looked terrible.


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I now I said I hated this driver but I just traded my R9 for a used one. I had to hit quite a few balls to get used to the look at address and feel but man this thing smashes the ball dead straight. Sure, it's ugly, and it may not feel great but man it works. I brought my R9 in for comparison and this was 8 yards further on average and alot tigher shot spread. I can't wait to game this thing on tuesday.
Driver: taylormade.gif R9 Superdeep TP 8.5* - Aldila RIP 70x | 3-Wood: taylormade.gif R9 TP 15* - Diamana Blueboard 83x | Hybrid: taylormade.gif Rescue TP 19* - Motore F3 95x | Irons: taylormade.gif RAC TP MB 3-PW - Dynamic Gold x100 | Wedges: taylormade.gif TP xFT 54.12* and 60.10* - Dynamic Gold s400 | Putter:  ping.gif Karsten Anser - 33"

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I now I said I hated this driver but I just traded my R9 for a used one. I had to hit quite a few balls to get used to the look at address and feel but man this thing smashes the ball dead straight. Sure, it's ugly, and it may not feel great but man it works. I brought my R9 in for comparison and this was 8 yards further on average and alot tigher shot spread. I can't wait to game this thing on tuesday.

This is what I love about honeymoon periods. I've had the same driver for about 3 years now. I've had times where I thought it was the hardest to hit driver on the planet, and other times where I thought it was the hottest driver on the planet. The key here is that the only thing that changed was me. The driver has been in its current form for about a year now. Honeymoon periods are great, but I'd rather work toward a good swing.


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This is what I love about honeymoon periods. I've had the same driver for about 3 years now. I've had times where I thought it was the hardest to hit driver on the planet, and other times where I thought it was the hottest driver on the planet. The key here is that the only thing that changed was me. The driver has been in its current form for about a year now. Honeymoon periods are great, but I'd rather work toward a good swing.

If he's hitting it side by side with his other driver is it really his swing that's changing things? Or is the club simply superior (for him) compared to the R9? I feel like a lot of people on this forum are TM haters simply because they put out lots of clubs each year, and dont give them their fair due for putting out good clubs when they do. I play a TM driver from about 2 years ago, but am in no way biased towards the company. I do however feel that credit needs to be given where it is due. I'm looking forward to hitting the superfast TP at a proshop with a range so I can see how it performs for me. And best believe I'll be honest/realistic about the results.

What's in my TaylorMade stand bag:
taylormade.gifSuperfast TP 10.5° Matrix HD6 graphite stiff shaft
nike.gifSasQuatch 2 Steel #3 Wood: 15° Diamana SasQuatch Graphite
cobra.gifBaffler DWS Hybrid Utility Woods: 3/R 20°
cobra.gifS2 Forged irons 4-PW stiff flex steel shaftcleveland.gifCG15 satin chrome 48° gap wedge 8 bouncemizuno.gifMP T Series chrome 53° sand...cleveland.gifnike.gifbridgestone.giftaylormade.gif


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If he's hitting it side by side with his other driver is it really his swing that's changing things? Or is the club simply superior (for him) compared to the R9? I feel like a lot of people on this forum are TM haters simply because they put out lots of clubs each year, and dont give them their fair due for putting out good clubs when they do. I play a TM driver from about 2 years ago, but am in no way biased towards the company. I do however feel that credit needs to be given where it is due. I'm looking forward to hitting the superfast TP at a proshop with a range so I can see how it performs for me. And best believe I'll be honest/realistic about the results.

The honeymoon period I had with my PING G10 lasted 3/4 of a year. When I started to spray it, I replaced the shaft. The second honeymoon commenced the next day. If you can hit a driver well, you should be able to do it pretty much every day. If you can't, then there's either something wrong with the stick or the size of the ego.

Mizuno MP600 driver, Cleveland '09 Launcher 3-wood, Callaway FTiz 18 degree hybrid, Cleveland TA1 3-9, Scratch SS8620 47, 53, 58, Cleveland Classic 2 mid-mallet, Bridgestone B330S, Sun Mountain four5.


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If he's hitting it side by side with his other driver is it really his swing that's changing things? Or is the club simply superior (for him) compared to the R9? I feel like a lot of people on this forum are TM haters simply because they put out lots of clubs each year, and dont give them their fair due for putting out good clubs when they do. I play a TM driver from about 2 years ago, but am in no way biased towards the company. I do however feel that credit needs to be given where it is due. I'm looking forward to hitting the superfast TP at a proshop with a range so I can see how it performs for me. And best believe I'll be honest/realistic about the results.

Honeymoon periods happen with any club. They likely come from the fact that a new club is somewhat unfamilliar, and when you swing it, you go easier and make a more solid swing. I haven't had that for a while, my clubs are my clubs pretty much all the time. Nothing in my bag is newer than about 2007.


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Just ordered one for myself a couple days ago. Traded in a set of Burner XD's I got a year ago (bought for $220) and Tayloramde preowned gave me $270 for the set. Anyways I got a 8.5 with the Matrix Ozik HD6 stiff, and 3 new gloves for my old set that I don't use anymore.

I like the low spin that the driver produces. I have always liked it when I can get some roll with my driver, and I found the Superfast TP allows me to get some 10 yards or so of roll, compared to my current FT-9.

It should be here today for Monday, and I wouldn't be surprised if my Dad didn't give it to me until Christmas, even if I have the Junior Amateur in 3 weeks. Can't wait for it to get here, nice stick for my eye and stick.

Whats in my 14 Way Stand Bag?? Just...
taylormade.gif Superfast TP 8.5* Matrix HD6 Stiff
taylormade.gif '07 Burner 5 wood 18* Snr. 50g
titleist.gif 710 AP2 3-PW w/ Dy. Gold S300
taylormade.gif Z TP 52* 8* stock wedgeflexscratch.gif 8620 56* with D/S grindcallaway.gif 2009 Forged X-Tour 60* 10* bounce stock wedgeflexcameron.gif Pro Platinum Laguna 2.5, 32.5inches


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Yup I just managed to get one in a bid on ebay for $150 in like-new condition. PRETTY STOKED. Cant wait for the stick to get here!

What's in my TaylorMade stand bag:
taylormade.gifSuperfast TP 10.5° Matrix HD6 graphite stiff shaft
nike.gifSasQuatch 2 Steel #3 Wood: 15° Diamana SasQuatch Graphite
cobra.gifBaffler DWS Hybrid Utility Woods: 3/R 20°
cobra.gifS2 Forged irons 4-PW stiff flex steel shaftcleveland.gifCG15 satin chrome 48° gap wedge 8 bouncemizuno.gifMP T Series chrome 53° sand...cleveland.gifnike.gifbridgestone.giftaylormade.gif


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Got it from the e-bay shipper the other day...literally PERFECT condition, only flaw was no head cover included (I use my own anyways). I have taken it to the range a few times since receiving it and have to say I LOVE this driver. Normally, when my swing is off I struggle with a slice. This club is listed as "3 degrees open face". I have hit probably 75% fewer slices with this club than my old one...I highly doubt the face is really that open. I'm probably hitting it about 5-10 yards further with this than I was with my old one, but the most important part is I'm hitting it much more consistently, despite the extra 1/2 inch on the shaft. This club may not be for everyone, but it's definitely for me

What's in my TaylorMade stand bag:
taylormade.gifSuperfast TP 10.5° Matrix HD6 graphite stiff shaft
nike.gifSasQuatch 2 Steel #3 Wood: 15° Diamana SasQuatch Graphite
cobra.gifBaffler DWS Hybrid Utility Woods: 3/R 20°
cobra.gifS2 Forged irons 4-PW stiff flex steel shaftcleveland.gifCG15 satin chrome 48° gap wedge 8 bouncemizuno.gifMP T Series chrome 53° sand...cleveland.gifnike.gifbridgestone.giftaylormade.gif


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part of the problem is that people on this forum are obsessed with distance. This is totally stupid machismo BS that actually hurts the average golfer - if you hit 7 iron 130 so be it. Work it so you can hit 135 if you really need or feather it in with a gentle fade at 125 yards- to me that's the real beauty of this awesome game.

It's a real drag to read these posts on the forum too - if for no other reason it re-enforces distance gimmicks that plague the golfing industry. I hit my 7 iron 160 stock - other distances I am trying real hard to get right now - mainly a nice feathered 155 as opposed to trying to pound an 8 iron. - it took years of developing swing technique to even hit my blades let alone move into different distances with the same club. my only point with this post is that I really don't care what anyone hits any club. I am more annoyed that I can't read a bunch of posts about the quality of this club on this forum.

I do not think having a 46 inch driver shaft is a good idea for a lot of golfers. Golf is  game of tempo, rhythm and technique applied with power ...sometimes. I just want to know how good or bad the damn club is and has anyone tried putting an aftermarket 45 inch shaft in it to have it play like a more normal length driver? If so - what were the results?

In my bag:
Titleist 910D2 w/Diamana Kaali'Stiff
Titleist 910F w/ Diamana Kaali' Stiff
Titleist 910F Hybrid 19 degree w/ Diamana Kaali' Stiff

Titleist AP1 Irons - TT S300
Titleist Vokey SM 50, 54 & 58 - Titleist Scott Cameron Newport


Posted

I'll add my 2c here.

I have got the SF 2.0 Driver and 3W. Not the TP version.

I hit the TP in the store and was not feeling it compared to the standard.

I love this Driver. I can really go after drives if I want to and it is so damn straight. And it hits very long. For my swing, this club is phenomenal. I try other great drivers in the store that other people rave about, and I know before I even swing that I am not going to nail it. Sometimes at address you kind of just know if it feels good or not. I don't think any club in the world can be plain great for everyone. I think the club looks awesome, feels great at address and I have so much confidence on the tee with it its scary. I choke up a little sometimes if I want to make sure of a fairway and give up a little distance. And take it to full length to give it a solid rogering when I really want to bomb it. And it sure as hell bombs.

And I 100% backup the hype over the 3W. I got both the clubs with stiff shaft. The 3W is just so awesome. Smoking off the tee or straight off the turf with ease.

I give 2 massive thumbs up for the SF series. Loving em.


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