Shoulder turn

[ghalfaire]

I sure have found this discussion interesting. just goes to show how difficult it is to describe the golf swing. For what ever it is worth when I take the club back I think about pushing left shoulder to the position the right shoulder was at address. For me this seems to get the plane of the swing more or less perpendicular to the spine.

[Chas]

Not that it came as such a revelation, but now that I'm watching HD video of myself I see just how incomplete my shoulder turn is and how flat the shoulder plane - with driver at least. I seem to have most of the faults that Erik listed somewhere as being associated with a flat shoulder plane at the top - still images taken right at that instant are not pretty. The shoulder plane angle to the horizontal is about half of what it should be! Also, I am forced to angle my neck back somewhat to clear my chin, or else the chin halts further shoulder rotation too early. I have to raise my head a little near the top to make room. Ugh .... I could post a video but I'd rather wait until I've improved things, if that is going to happen. This strikes me as a very basic and not so easily corrected problem. Many body parts and lots of geometry involved. Has anyone here managed to fix problems of this sort? Am I ever going to shoot in the 70s without getting it done? ;-) I fear I'll miss the ball completely if I try to fix it all at once. Such is goff I guess ....