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Does the push fade and pull hook result from the same basic swing problem with a driver? Are both generally caused from the same swing path with the only difference being an open vs closed club face? I used to slice every drive badly, the kind that started a little left then took a 90* turn. Now I hit fareways some of the time but I have also been alternating between some pull hooks and some push fades.

Cant wait to see replies to this... I am in a similiar situation. I was slicing everything I hit due to outside-in path. I started trying to fix this and my swing became more on plane, not perfect, but better and it seems that slices are rare now, but push fades are very common and pull hooks creep in there to.

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I also have the same problem. Push fade (not slicing) and pull hook.

Does the push fade and pull hook result from the same basic swing problem with a driver? Are both generally caused from the same swing path with the only difference being an open vs closed club face? I used to slice every drive badly, the kind that started a little left then took a 90* turn. Now I hit fareways some of the time but I have also been alternating between some pull hooks and some push fades.


Answer is yes.

I have the same issue, happens every 5th or 6th drive. Working on it past 2 weeks, getting better by rotating my body more and bringing my hands back to same position as at address.

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i've had about the worst case of the hooks I've ever seen. I mostly solved it by NOT hinging my left wrist, and just making a bigger turn, but not overswinging. My only 2 thoughts when I swing are solid left wrist, and watch the ball fly off the center of the clubface.

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Does the push fade and pull hook result from the same basic swing problem with a driver? Are both generally caused from the same swing path with the only difference being an open vs closed club face? I used to slice every drive badly, the kind that started a little left then took a 90* turn. Now I hit fareways some of the time but I have also been alternating between some pull hooks and some push fades.

It appears you have more than one problem going on. Aside from differing swing paths, you also appear to be hitting the ball off the toe and off the heel. Thus the gear effect comes into play causing ball spin into a draw or fade (from and already improper swing).


I've gotten a bad cause of the hooks and pulls -- I have a driver with a draw bias that I hit fine with my old swing. However I've since been taking lessons and am now hitting it left and hooking it some, making my aim a lot more sporatic, seeing as my old swing will creep in and throw a slice on things =] Going to talk to my pro, see if it's a swing thing or a driver thing. I'm upset I bought a draw bias now seeing as I want problems to stem from my swing and thus, I want good things to come from my swing too... Rather than just covering up problems or creating good with the draw club.

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It may be that your weight is staying on your back foot, leaving the club face open and if you try to save it you just close the face down. well, that used to be what i would do when i used to have this problem

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