Is the 13th green at The TPC fair or unfair in your opinion?

[David Sims]

To the credit of those at TPC though they've made the course much more playable over the years and I believe the scoring today shows that low #'s are out there. A 67 from Robert Karlsson today, a 68 from David Toms, and a 4 under 32 on the front for Mahan and I believe is 6 under on the day. Plenty of birdies out there and the course is, in my view, fair.

[ThominOH]

Originally Posted by sean_miller

Jack Nicklaus won the Players Championship a couple times before it went to Sawgrass. When asked for his review of the new TPC course he said he didn't like the course and mentioned he didn't know how to "stop a 5-iron on the hood of a car."

Ha Ha.. funny.. but then I was never a fan of Pete Dye courses.. I'd soon have Billy Bob design me a course then Pete..

[NEOHMark]

If anyone really wants to make the argument that the 13th green is little more than a Jungle Golf putt-putt gimmick, they need to re-watch Davis Love III's putt from today's final round.

[allin]

I have played this course and when not in tournament conditions it is an easy hole.  I suspect that under the firm conditions of tournament play the hole is unfair.  I believe that there are safe shot options, but to the pros any hole that takes birdie out of the equation is seen as unfair. I think some of these guys need to remember that setting up courses to their preferences is not the only consideration.  The spectator appeal and risk reward nature of this hole under pressure make it a valuable asset.

[ThominOH]

Originally Posted by NEOHMark

If anyone really wants to make the argument that the 13th green is little more than a Jungle Golf putt-putt gimmick, they need to re-watch Davis Love III's putt from today's final round.

Was that the one where the golfer putted 20 feet to the left of the hole.. almost stopped the ball on the ridge to have "gravity" bring the ball 90 degrees to the right and slide down close to the hole?   After I saw that, all I can think of is PUTT PUTT.. Total BS in my opinion..

[iacas]

Originally Posted by ThominOH

Was that the one where the golfer putted 20 feet to the left of the hole.. almost stopped the ball on the ridge to have "gravity" bring the ball 90 degrees to the right and slide down close to the hole?   After I saw that, all I can think of is PUTT PUTT.. Total BS in my opinion..

Suffice to say I disagree.

Hit the ball in the proper section of the green or face a difficult but by no means impossible two-putt (or even one-putt).

[zeg]

Unfair?  No way.  As long as everyone is facing the same course, there's no such thing as "unfair."

Perhaps not fun to play or not fun to watch, but not unfair.  A golfer complaining about that is, imo, suffering sour grapes.

[ThominOH]

Well in that case, lets bring out the windmills on the green, and Redwoods in the middle of the fairway.. As long as everyone has to play it, it's all good.. right?

[zeg]

Originally Posted by ThominOH

Well in that case, lets bring out the windmills on the green, and Redwoods in the middle of the fairway.. As long as everyone has to play it, it's all good.. right?

No, it'd be a terrible idea, but that's not the same as "unfair."

[ThominOH]

But what you and some have done is take the "unfair" in a literal sense by definition..  The OP shouldn't of used "unfair" to describe the hole, but I knew that he was implying and trying to say..  Geeesh..  Would it be better if the OP said parts of the TPC course are insanely stupid?