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Ok, so I was going to the range today to work on my driving technique, but decided to warm up with my irons first since I usually hit them well.  That is until today. For some reason on about half of my shots I would hit a low, off target (right), slice and could not figure out how to fix it.

When I line up the club face is square, but after this happens and I put the club back down in front of me the face of the club has shifted and is pointing left. I am assuming this is causing the hard slice?  What typically causes this type of shot? Could it be my grip is too loose and the club is shifting?

It was just odd because my shots were either decent or a hard, low, off target slice.  The funny thing is I went there for my driver and when I started swinging it I was dead straight and consistent.....go figure!

JW

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Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

 G15 10.5 degree Driver

 R5 3W and 5W

 G10 4-UW Irons

 Rossa Monza Corza putter


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Congrats my friend, you've got you a case of the shanks.

It's not a "slice" per se.  It's coming off the hosel.  That's what turns the club in your hands; the hosel hits the ball and slows down, but toe wants to keep turning, and twists in your hands.

That's why your other shots are decent, also.  The club can be coming through on a good path, with good speed, with a good downward strike, and with a square face, and it's a recipe for a good shot, unless you hit the ball with the hosel instead of the face.  Then you shank.

The driver doesn't have a hosel that can hit the ball, and thus you can't really shank it.  You just hit somewhat weaker shots coming off the heel rather than the sweet spot.

There are many cures to be looked up, now that you know you're searching for keyword shank.

-Andrew

Originally Posted by jon8105

Ok, so I was going to the range today to work on my driving technique, but decided to warm up with my irons first since I usually hit them well.  That is until today. For some reason on about half of my shots I would hit a low, off target (right), slice and could not figure out how to fix it.

When I line up the club face is square, but after this happens and I put the club back down in front of me the face of the club has shifted and is pointing left. I am assuming this is causing the hard slice?  What typically causes this type of shot? Could it be my grip is too loose and the club is shifting?

It was just odd because my shots were either decent or a hard, low, off target slice.  The funny thing is I went there for my driver and when I started swinging it I was dead straight and consistent.....go figure!

JW



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Ah, that was something I didn't think about.  It makes since though since I moved my ball closer to my body. I played a round with a tour pro and at the time he said I had the ball too far away from my body and that was causing me to lose my balance.  Maybe I adjusted the ball position too close to my body causing me to hit off the hosel?  I am going to the range tomorrow so having an idea of what causes the problem will definitely help in working to resolve it. Thanks for the help. I need it..haha

 G15 10.5 degree Driver

 R5 3W and 5W

 G10 4-UW Irons

 Rossa Monza Corza putter


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Did you figure the cure for this because I played this week and I had terrible shanks. Same thing low right devastating iron shots after gorgeous tee shos.


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Did you figure the cure for this because I played this week and I had terrible shanks. Same thing low right devastating iron shots after gorgeous tee shos.

You're probably not going to get a response from the OP because this thread is over three years old and he hasn't logged in since that time. My suggestion to you would be to start a swing thread. [URL]http://thesandtrap.com/f/4180/member-swings[/URL]

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