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Project X Flighted 5.5 on Adams CB2 too stiff?? Opinions appreciated


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Hi,

I have a set of Adams CB2 with the PX flighted 5.5's...

I made an irritating mistake which is completely my own fault but i ordered them new (off ebay) thinking that they came with the stock shaft which i assume i was using in Golfsmith and assume that was the KBS tour Regular Flex. I hit them beautifully.

So my clubs arrive and to my surprise have different shafts, i do a bit of reading and opinions seem to be varied on how stiff these particular shafts maybe, people saying anything from regular to extra stiff..

Not being able to return the clubs i get impatient staring at them for a week and decide to go hit them last night.

To my horror i was hitting all over the place and it felt like i was hitting rocks, not the forgiving irons i tried in the shop. I appreciate that some of this is likely due to my ability but nevertheless it was a complete change from the clubs i originally tried. They couldn't have felt more different.

So has anyone any experience of these shafts and any suggestions on what to do?

Each club has probably had 5-10 balls hit with each now.

Thanks in advance.

Adams CB2 wt Project X 5.5 Flighted

Callaway Ft-Iz Tour 10.5 wt Voodoo Stiff

Cleveland Black Pearl CG14 60'

Odyssey White Ice #9 Mallet

 


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The regular KBS Tour shaft has the same weight as the Project X Flighted 5.5. Also 5.0 is the most flexible so 5.5 can't be very stiff. Seems like they should be comparable.

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Thanks for the reply,

I think i am going to have to take my 6i down to golfsmith and compare them side by side if they will let me.

Anyone else?

Adams CB2 wt Project X 5.5 Flighted

Callaway Ft-Iz Tour 10.5 wt Voodoo Stiff

Cleveland Black Pearl CG14 60'

Odyssey White Ice #9 Mallet

 


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Project X 5.5 is considered a stiff shaft but I don't know how they compare to KBS Tour Regular flex.  In my experiences a stiff shaft wouldn't cause higher dispersion ("hitting all over the place") as you experienced but could make the clubs feel different.  I'd do the side by side that you suggested and see how it goes.

If you really had your heart set on the KBS Tour then you should just send them back as you're likely not going to mentally be happy with the Project X, though I'm using the Project X 6.0 flighted on my 2009 X-forged and really like the shaft compared to the Callaway uniflex I was using on my old clubs.

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Originally Posted by newtogolf

Project X 5.5 is considered a stiff shaft but I don't know how they compare to KBS Tour Regular flex.  In my experiences a stiff shaft wouldn't cause higher dispersion ("hitting all over the place") as you experienced but could make the clubs feel different.  I'd do the side by side that you suggested and see how it goes.

If you really had your heart set on the KBS Tour then you should just send them back as you're likely not going to mentally be happy with the Project X, though I'm using the Project X 6.0 flighted on my 2009 X-forged and really like the shaft compared to the Callaway uniflex I was using on my old clubs.


Agreed i dont think it was the shafts that were sending my shots all over. It was my ball striking, the difference seemed to be how it felt between good and bad shots. They just felt so hard with little forgiveness at all.

As for sending them back. I cant now as i have hit them, so im basically stuck as far as i can tell.

Adams CB2 wt Project X 5.5 Flighted

Callaway Ft-Iz Tour 10.5 wt Voodoo Stiff

Cleveland Black Pearl CG14 60'

Odyssey White Ice #9 Mallet

 


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Unless you're hitting your 7 iron like 170 yards, 5.5 is probably plenty stiff.

Driver: Taylormade R11 set to 8*
3 Wood: R9 15* Motore Stiff
Hybrid: 19° 909 H Voodoo
Irons: 4-PW AP2 Project X 5.5
52*, 60* Vokey SM Chrome

Putter: Odyssey XG #7

Ball: Titleist Pro V1x


Posted


Originally Posted by michaeljames92

Unless you're hitting your 7 iron like 170 yards, 5.5 is probably plenty stiff.



Well i definately dont want them any stiffer! I'm going to give them a second chance down at the range but i have a feeling im going to end up selling them on very quickly at a loss.

Thanks for the comments.

Adams CB2 wt Project X 5.5 Flighted

Callaway Ft-Iz Tour 10.5 wt Voodoo Stiff

Cleveland Black Pearl CG14 60'

Odyssey White Ice #9 Mallet

 


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The OP concern is the 5.5 could be too stiff since he was hoping to receive KBS Tour shafts in regular flex.

Originally Posted by michaeljames92

Unless you're hitting your 7 iron like 170 yards, 5.5 is probably plenty stiff.



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have them soft step them once ( you will have to buy one matching shaft ) and they will play about 1/3 less stiff, you can actually do it one more time beyond that and they will play 2/3 less stiff and closer to a 5.0 and a higher ball flight. better than buying a whole new set of shafts and it beats playing with shafts that will "mentally destroy you"

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Originally Posted by jpalermo

have them soft step them once ( you will have to buy one matching shaft ) and they will play about 1/3 less stiff, you can actually do it one more time beyond that and they will play 2/3 less stiff and closer to a 5.0 and a higher ball flight. better than buying a whole new set of shafts and it beats playing with shafts that will "mentally destroy you"



Interesting idea, i'm quite new to this level of fitting for clubs. The last set i bought was as a junior about 12 years ago. I'll have a look into it.

Thanks very much!

Adams CB2 wt Project X 5.5 Flighted

Callaway Ft-Iz Tour 10.5 wt Voodoo Stiff

Cleveland Black Pearl CG14 60'

Odyssey White Ice #9 Mallet

 


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Golfsmith will give you 90% of the original purchase price if you return the clubs within 30 days.  Here's the link: http://www.golfsmith.com/display_page.php?page_num=ps_difference_9090 .  Soft stepping might work, but I sense you want to the KBS shafts so this could be the best option for you and only cost you $60 - $70.  Before you do it, you might want to find out if the Project X are standard shafts and if there is an extra change to switch to KBS  if you order direct from Cobra or another store.

Originally Posted by auroch

Agreed i dont think it was the shafts that were sending my shots all over. It was my ball striking, the difference seemed to be how it felt between good and bad shots. They just felt so hard with little forgiveness at all.

As for sending them back. I cant now as i have hit them, so im basically stuck as far as i can tell.



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Thanks for the reply, unfortunately i tested the clubs at Golfsmith but bought them from ebay for the simple reason that i got them for a heck of alot cheaper. I got 4-PW for $430 and i think golfmsith are offering them for between $700 - $800 but with the KBS Tour which i now know!

I wonder if i could trade them in?

Originally Posted by newtogolf

Golfsmith will give you 90% of the original purchase price if you return the clubs within 30 days.  Here's the link:  http://www.golfsmith.com/display_page.php?page_num=ps_difference_9090.  Soft stepping might work, but I sense you want to the KBS shafts so this could be the best option for you and only cost you $60 - $70.  Before you do it, you might want to find out if the Project X are standard shafts and if there is an extra change to switch to KBS  if you order direct from Cobra or another store.



Adams CB2 wt Project X 5.5 Flighted

Callaway Ft-Iz Tour 10.5 wt Voodoo Stiff

Cleveland Black Pearl CG14 60'

Odyssey White Ice #9 Mallet

 


Posted
You definitely could trade them in at Golfsmith. You could get more using Ebay but that will take time. You may want to get what you want right away.

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Posted

Looking at the trade-in Golfsmith would offer you between $250 - $300 for trade-in but you might do better in person if you're willing to buy a set of clubs from them.

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The flighted shafts play "softer" than the regular shafts so the 5.5s are considered R+.  This, of course, means little because there's no standardization for what constitutes R, S, XS, etc.

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Thanks for the responses and info everyone, its much appreciated.

I hit the range again last night and gave them a second shot and im glad that i did. The longer irons 4-5 are going to take some getting used too but the rest were playing much better and very straight. It was clearly me the previous night, i had just been for a run and it was over 100 outside. I'm english and not used to existing in such temperatures! Not to mention the weird grass they have over here in the US.. Its like hittin off uneven straw!

On a side note, i also hit my  brand new FT-IZ tour 10.5 voodoo stiff last night and what a beast that is. Bombs straight down the middle 9/10 of the time. Reallly pleased i picked that up for $90 on ebay.

Anyway thanks, im keeping the clubs and im going to work on my game.

Adams CB2 wt Project X 5.5 Flighted

Callaway Ft-Iz Tour 10.5 wt Voodoo Stiff

Cleveland Black Pearl CG14 60'

Odyssey White Ice #9 Mallet

 


Posted

After doing a little more research i see that people seem to think the 4 and 5 iron shafts are over long in comparison to the rest of the clubs. Looking at my 4 and 6 side by side the 4 seems to be well over an inch in longer.

What would be a typical difference here?

Adams CB2 wt Project X 5.5 Flighted

Callaway Ft-Iz Tour 10.5 wt Voodoo Stiff

Cleveland Black Pearl CG14 60'

Odyssey White Ice #9 Mallet

 


Posted

Lol. I really need to learn to read. The 5.5's are quite stiffer than the reg KBS shafts but different profile. From memory the KBS launch much higher than the X's

Originally Posted by newtogolf

The OP concern is the 5.5 could be too stiff since he was hoping to receive KBS Tour shafts in regular flex.



Driver: Taylormade R11 set to 8*
3 Wood: R9 15* Motore Stiff
Hybrid: 19° 909 H Voodoo
Irons: 4-PW AP2 Project X 5.5
52*, 60* Vokey SM Chrome

Putter: Odyssey XG #7

Ball: Titleist Pro V1x


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