My Swing (prowland4)

[prowland4]

Hello everyone. This is my first post here but I have been reading this forum for quite a while.

I was hoping you guys could take a look at my swing. I'm a fairly good player and I'll stay in the 70's pretty consistently(thanks to my short game). I will still hit thin or fat shots to often but have no clue why. I've never taken lessons other than from my brother(who was a professional) 15 years ago so its hard for me to diagnose what I'm doing because I honestly don't know much about the golf swing....I'm not a very technical person and don't think of anything other than trying to make good contact.

Well, here it is........

Any thoughts or advice you guys can give would be greatly appreciated. I also have thick skin so feel free to tear my swing apart.

Thanks,

Patrick

[DaSportsGuy]

Swing looks really good to me. Only thing I see is that you come over the top. When I'm coming over the top I just focus on taking it straight back and straight through in a smooth motion.

I really like your setup as well. Only thing I would say is to keep your upper body a little straighter up. I think you're bent over a little too much.

[prowland4]

Originally Posted by DaSportsGuy

Swing looks really good to me. Only thing I see is that you come over the top. When I'm coming over the top I just focus on taking it straight back and straight through in a smooth motion.

I really like your setup as well. Only thing I would say is to keep your upper body a little straighter up. I think you're bent over a little too much.

Thanks. I never knew I came over the top like that until watching this video.

I will also work on straightening up my upper body as well.

[MPS67]

Hi Patrick,

You have a very nice and fast swing! Image #1 shows that your hands are hanging from your shoulders in perfect position and that you are the correct distance from the ball.

Image #2 shows that even though your extension is great (as seen in image 8,) you are taking away the club below the plane line. The club face in image #2 looks open.  However by the top, you've recovered to a good position - so you've got a little inside to loop action going on. You've turned back very nicely and have your left shoulder in a perfect position over your right foot's instep as seen in image #9. Your down swing looks good, as you stay between the plane lines. I don't see an over the top move as others have mentioned. And I say that because your club head does not go travel to the right of the target line.

Impact looks good, and I see the dirt from a divot formed after the ball.

I'd suggest working on the following in order to improve consistency:

I'd try to take away the club within the plane lines. Below is a "down the line" video of Lucas Glover. By the time his hands are where yours are in image three, he has stopped turning his shoulders

back. His right elbow bends as he allows momentum to carry the club up to the top. It seems you do the same, but a later point in the back swing. The 2nd video is a really good video from Shawn

Clement. He discusses taking the club back by tossing it back and taking advantage of momentum. In the 3rd video Dean Hartman shows a Hula Hoop drill that you can try in order to better feel a

good back swing plane to use.

[prowland4]

Hey MPS67. Thank you very much for the detailed response. Seeing the different frames like that helps out quite a bit.

I will for sure take a look at what you are talking about and those videos look pretty helpful....I like the hula hoop drill. I getting ready to walk out to the back porch and try that one out.

It also looks like I'm almost standing up at the impact position. Are you seeing that too or is just me?

Thanks again,

Patrick

[MPS67]

Originally Posted by prowland4

It also looks like I'm almost standing up at the impact position. Are you seeing that too or is just me?

Thanks again,

Patrick

Yes & no. I noticed that during your back swing, both your head and butt slides towards the ball. Maybe about 2-3 inches. But once at the top, I see very little early hip extension (where the butt slides toward the ball as you stand up) or head movement by the time of impact. Your back heel lifts, your hips raise, and your back leg straightens during this downswing section.  But I think this is a result of you unleashing so much power in your downswing. So, I think you're okay. Just for reference, below is an image and video of Vicky Hurst (LPGA) doing the same thing.

But it wouldn't hurt if you experiment with slowing your tempo a little in order to minimize the heel lift.

[prowland4]

Thanks MPS. That makes sense....I do need to work on my tempo.

[MPS67]

I actually like your tempo. It's fast, powerful, and looks smooth & relaxed all at the same time.

I'm sorry, but I didn't explain myself very well in my last post. I was suggesting to temporarily slow your pace down some while working on some of new swing adjustments.

[prowland4]

Oh ok. I understand now.....Thanks

[mvmac]

Hi Patrick, just seeming the need for some set-up changes that will help getting the club in, underplane.  Want the hands in, clubhead out

[prowland4]

Thanks mvmac