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I've made a few swing changes over the past year to make my swing more up and down, instead of too shallow and around the body. I can immediately tell when I get lazy and drop my right arm to the inside at the last third of my backswing, resulting in an over the top hook. I've nearly eliminated that problem (mostly by repetition and being aware that taking the club back inside never results in good things for me). My "problem" now is that I nearly always hit a slight push to the right - between 5 and 10 yards right. I set up on the left side of the tee boxes. I havent yet encountered a scenario in which its hurt me. About 50% of the time it draws back a few yards, but the rest of the time its dead straight, and a max of 10 yards off to the right. Is this something to worry about, or is this just "my natural ball flight" and just continue to play the left side of the tee boxes on narrow holes?

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cobra baffler 3 wood stiff / cobra baffler 18º hybrid stiff
cobra sz irons stiff (soon to be bridgestone j33)
Cleveland 52, 56, 60 cg14
odyssey 2 dot putter / taylormade penta tp, prov1, callaway hx tour (have a few boxes of each from the past couple seasons)


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Take note that the set-up alignments don't change from shot to shot.  If the handle gets too far back that gets the clubhead to swing across the ball and result in a cut/slice.

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Could this be as simple as you setting up with the club face a bit open?

My old irons always looked more open then they actually were so I ended up setting up with them closed and thinking they were square. To me, square looked way open. I still need to remind myself that my hybrids look open when they are square. Maybe you have the opposite visual trick being played on you and what you think is a square club face is really a tiny bit open.

BTW, my issue went away when I got my Mizunos. When they look square to me, they are square. Not sure why. Perhaps your issue will magically go away when you get your new irons.

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Winter is here, so you might buy a launch monitor session and get some data on your shots.

You're a 5 HDCP, and appear to have a consistent shot pattern. So, some launch data and the eye of a teaching pro could help you diagnose what's happening.

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sorry guys, i should have clarified, this is strictly a driver problem.  I got my bridgestones last spring, just never updated my signature.

nike sq dymo str8 fit 9.5º  stiff
cobra baffler 3 wood stiff / cobra baffler 18º hybrid stiff
cobra sz irons stiff (soon to be bridgestone j33)
Cleveland 52, 56, 60 cg14
odyssey 2 dot putter / taylormade penta tp, prov1, callaway hx tour (have a few boxes of each from the past couple seasons)


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