Need some new irons, tips please.

[ThirtyOverPar]

Im a recreational golfer currently using my dad's old bullet irons. ( Yes very old). Im about a 12 handicap right now and only getting better. Im looking to upgrade my irons. I've been looking at the Callaway Razr, the Burner 2.0, and the AP1's. If anyone has any tips for me they would be much appreciated.

[The Tin Man]

Never heard of Bullet so I Googled it.

From what I found - why switch?   The clubs your looking at are not significantly better, just more expensive.

How are your woods, driver, putter, wedges?

[Brooke]

Don't know the Bullets, but if they are "very old," I'd bet that newer technology would be quite noticeable. All I can advise is to hit them all, preferable more than once, just to be sure you weren't simply having a horrible/great swing on a particular day.

[Jmdmbike]

Depends what you're looking for. I had Burner 1.0 and I don't think the 2.0 are much different. Forgiving and very long due to light weight starts and strong lofts.  I just got the new AP1s. Lofts are not as strong, so I don't expect as much distance but looking for more accuracy. the ones you're looking at are all good, just depends what you want in your irons.

[buj77]

Think the others on here have alluded to it but really what you buy depends on where your game is at and what you intend to achieve by buying new clubs. I just bought a new set of irons a couple of months ago and my reason was that I was coming back to the game after 10 years. I had a set of Hogan Director blades, and I found that my swing was so inconsistent when I got back to the game that playing the blades wasn't doing me any favors (they still feel amazinsow hen you hit them well though), so I decided o put the blades away for a while, get a set of irons which were more forgiving, which would still let me work the ball if I wanted to (as my swing got better, this was something I wanted to be able to do) and something which looked good to me (having played blades for a long time, when I stand over the ball, it was important for me to have a club which had a relatively thin profile/top line). I then did some research on the net about clubs which may help me do this (read reviews, checked forums), and then built up a list of about 5-6 clubs I may be interested in. Once all that was done, I went to the pro-shop, and hit all those clubs, as many times as I needed to, to get a feel for the clubs and then bought clubs, which I thought felt/looked the best and which gave me confidence. The point I am making is...know why you are buying a new set, what you intend to achieve, and then do research and testing before deciding...I know it's a long process (as is this post), but if you want to make the right choice, that's how I'd suggest you go about it (of course you could completely ignore the long winded post and just go out and buy what you think you'd like to have).

All the best in your pursuit for a new set!

Cheers

[saevel25]

Originally Posted by ThirtyOverPar

Im a recreational golfer currently using my dad's old bullet irons. ( Yes very old). Im about a 12 handicap right now and only getting better. Im looking to upgrade my irons. I've been looking at the Callaway Razr, the Burner 2.0, and the AP1's. If anyone has any tips for me they would be much appreciated.

Go to Callaway's or Taylormade's website and look for a demo day. I am personally leaning towards callaway myself, because they offer Project X flighted shafts at no cost. I would have to spend like 20-30 bucks per club to upgrade the Burners or AP's with that. I really like the flighted, i like that precision golf is more into frequency matching than other shafts. To me its the true way to know if a golf shaft is stiff enough.

You got to ask yourself, whats your game like. Can you bend the ball a bit, do you want workability, or total forgiveness, or maybe a bit of both. I kinda like the mix of player and GI clubs. Something that looks blade like, maybe a slightly lower MOI, so you can still work it, but not to much so if you do miss hit one you are not penalized in your golf game to much. The key for me though, find something you can line up everytime, something that looks and feels good, then get a good shaft to match your swing. You can find a good pro to fit you, or demo day reps are very knowledgeable, just know they are going to sell there pitch as you grill them on fitting information.

[The Tin Man]

Synchronicity!  Yesterday at Rodger Dunn's I found a set of 444 Bullets for $60.  They had more in common with a blade then an AP1. (I play AP!'s myself.)

The Bullets had the size, shape and  top line of a classic blade. (Scotch - Small Heads - I like!) The cavity back is shallow and each head is progressively weighted.  I would have bought them if not for the closed face. (To help a slice and make a hook worse - I hook.)  There's also a lot of offset. More offset the an AP1. The sole has a nice forgiving rocker.

It was a raining and the line for the hitting bays was long so I did not try them.

My conclusion is that Thirty Over Par learned the game with clubs that (with the exception of the closed face)  would be marketed today as Muscle Back "Players Irons". He doesn't need Super Game Improvement Irons.

To: Thirty Over Par - do you slice? These clubs are helping. If you Hook they are hurting.

Take your 6 iron with you when trying clubs. Compare the 7 iron of new clubs with it.  Start with "Players Irons" (How I hate that term but don't know what else to use.) and work towards more forgiveness.

[ThirtyOverPar]

Originally Posted by The Tin Man

Synchronicity!  Yesterday at Rodger Dunn's I found a set of 444 Bullets for $60.  They had more in common with a blade then an AP1. (I play AP!'s myself.)

The Bullets had the size, shape and  top line of a classic blade. (Scotch - Small Heads - I like!) The cavity back is shallow and each head is progressively weighted.  I would have bought them if not for the closed face. (To help a slice and make a hook worse - I hook.)  There's also a lot of offset. More offset the an AP1. The sole has a nice forgiving rocker.

It was a raining and the line for the hitting bays was long so I did not try them.

My conclusion is that Thirty Over Par learned the game with clubs that (with the exception of the closed face)  would be marketed today as Muscle Back "Players Irons". He doesn't need Super Game Improvement Irons.

To: Thirty Over Par - do you slice? These clubs are helping. If you Hook they are hurting.

Take your 6 iron with you when trying clubs. Compare the 7 iron of new clubs with it.  Start with "Players Irons" (How I hate that term but don't know what else to use.) and work towards more forgiveness.

Thankyou everyone for the advice. I plan on going to my local pro shop and getting fit/hitting irons.

To Tin Man - I tend to slice a bit and was getting frustrated with always being on the right side (on my course, in the trees) and so I asked my friend how I could draw the ball. After him showing me how to do that, I tend to overdue it a bit and get a sharp hook. Every once in a while ill get it right and hit it right down the middle. On Friday, I attended a Titleist demo day at my club and hit the AP1's. I liked the feel of them, but I still think I like the Burners over them, as I think they are more forgiving.

On a side note, I'm also tending to chunk the ball a bit more than I used to, not sure what I'm doing, my only guess is I'm pulling my head to early. But even when I force myself to look down, I tend to chunk.

Once again thanks for everything.

[The Tin Man]

I chunk when I get stiff and don't shift my weight forward. Hitting an occasional hook is not a bad thing, as long as you don't also slice. Hooking is a better ball stricker's error. Place your Bullet club in address position. Notice how the face slants a bit to your left - that's a closed face. It helps a bit with slices but makes a hook worse. A lot of clubs - especially drivers - come with closed faces. Notice how the books and magazines are loaded with tips on how not to slice, but never on how not to hook. I avoid all clubs with a closed face.

[Cut68]

If you are looking at the AP1's, check out the Mizuno JPX's. The JPX Pro's might be a good option for you too.

[smootchstone]

Anybody want to sell there bullet444 set of irons?

[vangator]

I remember the bullet iron. When I first read this, I thought of the Browning 440's. I always wanted a set of those. What was I thinking????