These spikeless shoes

[Kapanda]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-Ashworth-Encinitas-Lounge-Shoes-Golf-Casual-Spikeless-Mens-Sandstorm-139-/390393777850?pt=US_Men_s_Athletic_Footwear&var;=&hash;=item5ae5484eba#ht_1393wt_1186

They're only stylish, but can't tell if any good....

Can anyone help?

[ladders11]

Just my opinion, but no way would I want to walk a round or golf at all in those.  I'm not seeing stability or arch support.  FYI, I've played many rounds in cross trainers so I am not some sort of snob regarding shoes.

[Kapanda]

The sort of help I was looking for. Thanks a bunch!

[iacas]

Originally Posted by ladders11

Just my opinion, but no way would I want to walk a round or golf at all in those.  I'm not seeing stability or arch support.  FYI, I've played many rounds in cross trainers so I am not some sort of snob regarding shoes.

Stability and arch support may be worse for you than you think. They don't force your feet to strengthen themselves and they can actually lead to more injury, etc. than shoes which lack support and tons of cushioning and stability, because the latter force your feet, your arches, your ankles, your calves to become more supple, stronger, etc.

[Kapanda]

Originally Posted by iacas

Stability and arch support may be worse for you than you think. They don't force your feet to strengthen themselves and they can actually lead to more injury, etc. than shoes which lack support and tons of cushioning and stability, because the latter force your feet, your arches, your ankles, your calves to become more supple, stronger, etc.

Just assume I'm already athletic enough.

Lol I kid.

[joekelly]

Slammin' Sammy Snead learned the game barefoot. He later advocated practice without shoes in order that you might feel the turf  underfoot without the clunky shoes.  Think of using a condom or going 'bareback'.  Big difference.

[sean_miller]

Originally Posted by ladders11

Just my opinion, but no way would I want to walk a round or golf at all in those.  I'm not seeing stability or arch support.  FYI, I've played many rounds in cross trainers so I am not some sort of snob regarding shoes.

Ditto.

[ladders11]

Originally Posted by iacas

Stability and arch support may be worse for you than you think. They don't force your feet to strengthen themselves and they can actually lead to more injury, etc. than shoes which lack support and tons of cushioning and stability, because the latter force your feet, your arches, your ankles, your calves to become more supple, stronger, etc.

I advocate performing some exercises without shoes, and one-legged exercises to enhance stability and balance.  Hiking rough, hilly terrain (in shoes) also works for this.

On the course I want shoes though.  Golf is hard enough.  For me, sore feet would interfere with my ability to play and enjoy it.

[sean_miller]

Originally Posted by ladders11

Quote:

Originally Posted by iacas

Stability and arch support may be worse for you than you think. They don't force your feet to strengthen themselves and they can actually lead to more injury, etc. than shoes which lack support and tons of cushioning and stability, because the latter force your feet, your arches, your ankles, your calves to become more supple, stronger, etc.

I advocate performing some exercises without shoes, and one-legged exercises to enhance stability and balance.  Hiking rough, hilly terrain (in shoes) also works for this.

On the course I want shoes though.  Golf is hard enough.  For me, sore feet would interfere with my ability to play and enjoy it.

I just thought they looked like slippers, not proper golf equipment. I had a couple pairs of spikeless golf shoes in the 1980s (FootJoys) and they were great - until you played from wet turf which is pretty common when you play outdoors.

[Kapanda]

Originally Posted by sean_miller

I just thought they looked like slippers, not proper golf equipment. I had a couple pairs of spikeless golf shoes in the 1980s (FootJoys) and they were great - until you played from wet turf which is pretty common when you play outdoors.

Someone here said that his pair of footjoys worked perfectly well on wet surface. Enhanced technology, maybe?

Because that poster also did bring a good point about wearing the same shoes out of the house that you might wear on the golf course. It just makes things easier.

[sean_miller]

Originally Posted by Kapanda

Quote:

Originally Posted by sean_miller

I just thought they looked like slippers, not proper golf equipment. I had a couple pairs of spikeless golf shoes in the 1980s (FootJoys) and they were great - until you played from wet turf which is pretty common when you play outdoors.

Someone here said that his pair of footjoys worked perfectly well on wet surface. Enhanced technology, maybe?

Because that poster also did bring a good point about wearing the same shoes out of the house that you might wear on the golf course. It just makes things easier.

My FootJoys had little nubs that were great most days. Then I switch to metal spikes and never went back. I had great shoes that did not do any harm to my long term foot health (Bostonians, FootJoys, Mizunos, Etonics, etc). I sunk too much dough into a couple pairs of Mizuno permaspikes right before metal was banned everywhere locally. Soft spikes didn't grip as well as metal at first because they were too soft and flexible, but the ones out currently are fantastic.

People say a lot of things and some people's good points are completely irrelevant to others. In Canada we try not to wear shoes in our residences so the need for a comfortable shoe that can be worn in the house and double as a golf shoe, or vise versa, is nonsense. I could wear a comfortable shoe to work then to the golf course, but after a day at work I like to change into a different type of shoe. I do occasionally wear my current soft spiked shoes on the way to the course though and have no problem doing so.

[iacas]

Originally Posted by sean_miller

I just thought they looked like slippers, not proper golf equipment. I had a couple pairs of spikeless golf shoes in the 1980s (FootJoys) and they were great - until you played from wet turf which is pretty common when you play outdoors.

Oh, they look lousy in my opinion. I wasn't saying I'd wear these at all, just talking about how I think we get "support" and "stability" wrong in shoes.

These, you're right, actually LOOK like slippers, but it's irrelevant if they're as comfortable as a pair of slippers.

[ladders11]

It may be important that these Ashworth "Lounge" shoes are not just spikeless, they are laceless. Golf-moccasins?  Spikeless shoes are here to stay, but laceless?  I have some slip-on shoes that work for me, but they all involve some sort of elastic to hold the top of the shoe on my foot.  Whenever I've tried slip-on shoes without this elastic, I've had problems sliding around in the shoes.

[Motley01]

Those look like I would wear the around the house, with my robe on. (I don't really wear a robe).

[Kapanda]

Only Americans ever accuse other Americans of being stylish so.. no wonder

[ladders11]

Originally Posted by Kapanda

Only Americans ever accuse other Americans of being stylish so.. no wonder

I wince whenever someone refers to golf shoes as stylish.  The raging popularity of "street" golf shoes has caused plenty of overly optimistic comments about the viability of golf shoes in non-golfing venues.  No matter how much I might like the Ecco, True, FJ street, or Kikkor shoes on the course, I can't see these passing for cool in non-athletic settings.

It reminds me of wearing the bright-colored side-vent polyester tech golf shirts in a nightlife venue; this always looks tacky, and sometimes these people glow.  Bad.