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Hahaha, thanks.  I will try.  If I make the college team I will get better so fast and be playing that course almost every day, then dominate that tournament next year :D .. very slim chance i'll make the team though, to be honest.

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Originally Posted by Unforgiven93

Well, I lost :(  I didn't play nearly as well today.. we were even through 11 holes then he won 3 of the next 4 just because I made stupid mistakes.  I didn't play horribly, but I knew I would have to play well to win.  He beat an 18 year old (me) and a 19 year old in the same day, both 3&2, and is now in the semi-finals.   There aren't many sports out there where a 56 year old can do that, haha.

Careful.........I'm 56.

Regards,

John

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Careful.........I'm 56. a3_biggrin.gif

You're probably the one that beat me today, wouldn't that be funny.

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For 1st time match play for a high handicapper (21), what would your tips be playing against low, mid, and fellow high handicapper?

RiCK

(Play it again, Sam)

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I'm going to go contrarian here.  Ignore all of the gamesmanship stuff in either direction and just play your game,  Bobby Jones, a pretty fair match play player, said that he got good at match play once he started ignoring his opponent and concentrated on beating Old Man Par.  If that is good enough for Bobby . . .

Was going to give this exact same quote.  Focus on your game, what you can control and ignore all the other distractions that can happen in match play.  If you play well but lose you still have the satisfaction of playing a good round.


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