Sign in to follow this  
Followers 0
FrankfurtDave

Upgrade from Burner 2.0s to Players?

5 posts in this topic

Hi All,

First off a bit about myself. I really took up golf Sept 2011 and got fitted for a set Burner 2.0s. At that time I was a 54 handicap (starting point here in Germany) and at the end of this season I am 16,1.

I tend to hit the ball very well with irons but would say that I sweep too much with my longer irons and have a slight fade. I think realistically my iron play is akin to a 12 HCP it is my putting that is letting me down.

I am thinking of getting refit and upgrading my irons for the new season as although the burners are good I feel that I can not improve my swing as they are too forgiving and I get no feedback. This leads to erratic distances and a lack of consistency plus I can not move/control the ball as I would like.

I have therefore been thinking about MP-59, MP-64 and AP2's. I will obviously go and check these out (must drive 2 hours to a decent Mizuno DNA fitting place) myself but wanted to get feedback from people about other options to consider and whether jumping to a players iron so soon would be a mistake?

Thanks for your thoughts,

Dave

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Want to get rid of this advertisement? Sign up (or log in) today! It's free!

I know exactly where you are coming from, I was in a similar situation when I purchased my last set of irons.

I say go with whatever gives you the most enjoyment when playing a round of golf, there is nothing quite like hitting a blade pure..... and also nothing quite like stinging your hands with a blade lol. I say go get fitted and hit as many different clubs as you can, blades up to big cavity backs this should help you decide.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

For me the answer will be something in between, a CB/MB iron set. May even go a step further and toss out the 3i and 4i for a hybrid. Will know for sure when the new Cobra Amp Cell hits the rack.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Well I just came back from a fitting and for me the Mizuno MP-64s were the clear winner and will be my next set of clubs.

Using the DNA optimizer we checked shafts and came to the conclusion that the PX 5.5 was the best shaft for me and then I tried the I20, AP2, JPX 825 Pro and the MP-64's.

The I20 was lovely and easy to hit with good distances the only problem was that, for me, it did not seem to give the feedback that I was looking for and did not seem to add enough to justify the change from the Burners. It was certainly better but I got the feeling that I would want to change again a year down the line.

The AP2 just did not work for me at all. It looks lovely and was one I expected to really like but the weighting in the head did not work for me in the slightest.

Next I tried the MP-64, which I thought would be too much club. I soon understood the "buttery" feel that everyone talks about but also felt the feedback that I have always been missing. However, importantly always made solid contact with great dispersion in the shots. I certainly lost distance at the start but by the end was hitting 130 carrys rolling out to a reported 160 which was equal or longer than my burners and felt that there was easily enough forgiveness in them for me not to be scared even with my 16 handicap.

I did try the 825 Pros but after the MP-64s they felt hard on all but perfect shots and there was no way I could go any way other than ordering the 64's, hence I will be ordering 5-Pw in 64's and 3 and 4 in the H4's once the manager is back in house next week.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!


Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.


Sign In Now
Sign in to follow this  
Followers 0



  • Want to join this community?

    We'd love to have you!

    Sign Up
  • 2016 TST Partners

    GAME Golf
    PING Golf
    Lowest Score Wins
  • Posts

    • I still like this method.  It feels like I using my bottom hand as a "forehand" to the chip toward the apex and let the ball break downhill to the hole . Great for downhill chips  I find I can also open and close the wedge face with the same hand and make it easy to hit out of the sand with similar rhythm 
    • Placed a coaster on the carpet, and hit putts from five feet away until I hit the coaster 50 times. The few times I missed were to the right.
    • That's awesome - good stuff!  You must have been doing a little "scoreboard-checking" after that 30...no matter how hard you tried not to!
    • Tough practice session today.  It's hot out there (even at 8pm), and I'm tired from 36 holes of golf this weekend in 90-degree heat...and probably about 36 beers (not while golfing, but still). I'm sticking with the same practice template.  First half of the session focuses on backswing and downswing path; second half focuses on clubface control.  Every swing is on video and reviewed. I was a bad "stupid monkey" for about 5 swings at the beginning...I was thinking about the "short-arm" stuff above, and trying to work on it.  Based on the slow-mo video, I was actually able to get one REALLY good inline impact with the 6-iron by DRIVING my hands forward...but I made terribly fat contact.  After that swing I made myself stop and put it completely out of my head.  I didn't even take any more face-on video.  F-O-C-U-S is key right now. After that brief distraction, my swing path and backswing work went OK...I was getting a bit lazy on the backswing and not completing my turn on some swings, but I'm doing better at hitting my downswing positions.  Contact and ball flight with the irons is really good right now (relative to my skill level).  I was hitting mostly my "on-course" pushes, moving towards push-fades with the longer clubs, but with overall very solid contact and height.     I think my A4 is pretty good on this swing...full shoulder turn and good hip turn (not sure about hand/arm position, but that's not part of what I'm working on right now):   Club is in-line with the hands at A6 (that's good):   Impact (not checking anything here yet, but including for completeness).  I can tell I'm still "short-arming" it at impact, but I'm not worried about that yet:   Game Golf tag basically visible at A8 (that's good):   I'm also finally hitting my target positions with my driver, which represents progress.  Contact was pretty bad tonight (quite a few heel and toe strikes), so I just slowed it down to 75% with the driver and focused on path.  Hit some decent 200-yard baby-fades with that swing (also a bunch of my "on-course" pushes).   A4 here felt a bit abbreviated, but it looks OK on the video (feel was probably because it was not a full-speed swing):   Club is in-line with the hands at A6 (took me a damn month to be able to do this with the driver, but...it's getting more and more consistent):   Impact for completeness:   Good A8 here for the driver (again, I say "really good" only in terms of the swing path I've been working towards):   Overall, I think it was a good night of work on swing path, considering how I was feeling.   As for the clubface control drill: I really need to find a way to put something downrange (or start going to a different range to work on that piece).  Without a visual reference, the open/closed clubface positions are way too exaggerated.  I'm probably still working on the skill (the "twist"), but not as productively as I could be.  This might be the piece that prompts me to buy a small net for the backyard.   Summary / Next Steps I'm hoping to get one more practice session in this week before my trip to work with @iacas on Saturday.  Based on my slow progress to date, unless that session is some sort of cosmic breakthrough, I don't think I'm going to be ready to add any more drills or pieces to work on yet.  If I tried to add another swing thought on either the backswing or downswing, I'm pretty sure it'd mess up one of my current priorities.  Especially since I've only cracked the surface of the clubface control drill. We'll see.  I suppose if I were to focus on getting into a better position at A4, I could work that into the backswing drills I've been doing...or something similar.  
    • Definitely.  Possibly even slightly simpler with a chipper because it's already designed for that, likely more upright than a 9 iron etc. :)
  • TST Blog Entries

  • Images

  • Today's Birthdays

    1. chriswuk
      chriswuk
      (25 years old)
    2. Gero
      Gero
      (73 years old)
    3. SUPGolfer
      SUPGolfer
      (46 years old)
  • Blog Entries