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Hi, Ive had a set of mizuno tp9s for 10 year now and love them, but ive recently noticed that the toe of the clubs mainly my short irons are pointing up. This explains how ive recently started to pull the ball and its getting worse. Is it possible for the lie angle to alter over time and is it possible to have them reset back

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Any chance you have made a stance adjustment that causes you to need a flatter lie? Lie angle is usually pretty constant for a golfer, unless you make a swing change.

You could always get a lie angle check to make sure the clubs meet the factory specifications.

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Originally Posted by marko6609

Hi, Ive had a set of mizuno tp9s for 10 year now and love them, but ive recently noticed that the toe of the clubs mainly my short irons are pointing up. This explains how ive recently started to pull the ball and its getting worse. Is it possible for the lie angle to alter over time and is it possible to have them reset back

thanks

Clubs can change, there specs over the years, but i doubt its that much. It sounds like something has changed in your swing.

For example, my clubs were about 1 degree to flat for me, but that was with a very steep swing path and an outside to in swing. If the swing shallows out a bit, or changes orientation it could change the lie. Also, if you grip down on the club, that will make the club more upright as well, because your body stays the same.

Here's something pretty simple. Get some masking tape, or you impact tape. Put it on the club, then draw in a vertical line down the center. Now, get one of those ball marking tools, that you can draw a straight line on the ball with. Get a wet erase marker, and draw a line. Make sure that line is vertical on a tee. Then hit the ball. If the line shown on the tape is not vertical, then your clubs are off on the lie angle.

Also, your clubs will be slightly toe up at address anyways. Because the club shaft bends in the downswing, due to the weight of the clubhead, as well as your hands usually are a bit higher at impact than at address. So, don't worry about set up. Just worry about impact.

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Yes, lie and lofts do change from use.  Especially with forged or softer clubs and if you hit off range mats a lot.  But they generally tend to get flatter, and not more upright.  I have my irons and wedges checked once a year.  And every year, the shorter irons are about a degree flat.

I agree with the two posters above.  It won't hurt to have the specs checked, (after 10 years on forged clubs, I strongly urge you do) and also there is prob some changes in your swing.  But if you can have the specs checked and adjusted back, then that one things less on your mind in your swing thought to worry about right?

And yes, the TP 9 are pretty soft (a good thing) and your local club fitter should have no trouble adjusting the lie or lofts to your liking.  But rather than just adjusting it to stock specs, I suggest the same as what saevel25 said about the masking tape first to see how far on or off it is.

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Thanks for your replies. I will get them checked over. I presume I would need to go to a fitting center to so a computer can see my impact angle. If they charge me loads I may aswell buy a new set of irons!

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What they do is have you hit of a lie board.  The board is some plastic that will leave a mark on the sole of your club.  If the mark is closer to the heel, then it needs to be flatter.  If its towards the toe, then needs to be bent more upright.  Very basic but effective.  Should cost you no more than $25-30 to do your whole set, including the adjustments.  After that, have them write down all the specs and from then on, unless your swing changes a bit, those will be your specs to bring to a club repair shop every year or so.

If they want to incorporate computers or monitors for an upcharge, it is purely optional.  It may help, but then its not entirely necessary just to determine lie angles to your swing.

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