Why tilt right when trying to hit up on the ball?

[nilssoa]

After reading the hit up vs down thread it got me thinking about the advise to tilt away from target to hit up on drivers. To me that feels quite counter-intuitive as the more you tilt your spine away from target the further in front you need the ball to actually hit up on it. Am I missing something? When tilting too much the bottom of the arc comes below ground leading to very shamefull duffed drives.

In theory, is there any differences between

Closed stance, hitting pull fade

Open stance, push fade

Neutral stance pull fade

Is the difference between a weak slice and a power fade that in the latter you hit it in-to-out but after the low point instead of over the top and hitting down on the ball?

How does all of this relate to putting? I´ve often heard that I should hit up on the ball to get optimal roll. Is that BS? When putting I guess the best is to eliminate sidespin having the clubface in the same angle as the club path. To me that sounds like I should align my feet closed to the hole, is that correct?

[Hardballs]

I read this twice and still have no idea what you are asking?

[boogielicious]

@nilssoa ,

Check out the above thread for the reasons we want to hit up on the driver.  I think what you are referring to is the reverse K set up.  Here is another thread below where this was discussed.

[MS256]

Take a nail and a hammer and start the nail, angled slightly upward, into a board somewhere around thigh level.

When you drive the nail see what you naturally do with your spine angle.

[14ledo81]

To the OP, it sounds like a few different topics you are discussing here.

[acerimusdux]

After reading the hit up vs down thread it got me thinking about the advise to tilt away from target to hit up on drivers. To me that feels quite counter-intuitive as the more you tilt your spine away from target the further in front you need the ball to actually hit up on it. Am I missing something?

I think so. If the ball is even slightly forward, and the spine tilt is even slightly back, it would seem to me to be difficult to hit down on the ball, unless you get your hands way out in front. Or, unless you shift the upper body (and head) forward (as opposed to only the hips).  So no, I don't think you need to move the ball any more forward when you add secondary tilt.

When tilting too much the bottom of the arc comes below ground leading to very shamefull duffed drives.

If the bottom of the arc is below the ground, you will hit the ground. If you are doing that, than most likely either:

1. You aren't getting your weight forward. If you are bending the rear knee in on the downswing while the weight is still back, yes you will be in danger of driving the club into the ground. You should be shifting the front hip forward over the front heel at the start of the downswing, before your arms come through.

2. Possibly you are standing too close to the ball.

3. Least likely, you could be releasing the hands way too early.  I would think this would seem unnatural though, so I doubt this is it, if the weight is forward and the swing path is wide enough.

Is the difference between a weak slice and a power fade that in the latter you hit it in-to-out but after the low point instead of over the top and hitting down on the ball?

No, it's quite common to hit a power fade while hitting down on the ball.  I do think you would hit a weak slice though if your weight is too far back. If the weight is back and you are pivoting on the back foot, you will cut across the ball every time. Allow the weight to shift forward and you will hit through the ball.

How does all of this relate to putting?

In my view, it doesn't, really.