Game Console Wars (Kinda)

[iacas]

That sucks...

The PS3? Yeah, I agree.

[janzaruk]

I have to say I find it harder to hit it straight, but not impossible. It's quite easy once you get the hang of it. I'm picking up my copy today.

Great roster, no doubt, I just thought 07 was a much better game.

BTW, PS3 haters go away The console race is a marathon, not a sprint. Remember that in two years when you are buying the XBox 760 Elite Special Edition for $600, and I am still playing my PS3

[iacas]

BTW, PS3 haters go away

The PS2 is outselling the PS3. The Wii is outselling the PS3 and the XBox combined (or coming quite close to doing so).

It may be a marathon, but the PS3 has decided to take a nap after mile marker three.

[janzaruk]

The PS2 is outselling the PS3. The Wii is outselling the PS3 and the XBox combined (or coming quite close to doing so).

You are right on the PS2 and the Wii, which no offense, but it's not a next gen console. It's fun, for sure, but next gen, not really. Check out the specs. It's basically the GameCube with motion sensing abilities. BUT, it is selling like hotcakes for sure, but I don't see it having the legs, or games, for "gamers". They casual market they have dominanted will dry up eventually. It was one of the best business moves I have witnesses in my life. Nintendo deserves every cent they can suck out of people for their product.

As for the PS3, you may be right, I also owned a Dreamcast But, there is not a game out right now on consoles that can touch Warhawk in multiplayer online, which seems to be the wave of the future. That game is special, and I think shows what Sony is going to bring to the table. Home, LitteBigPlanet, Drakes Fortune could be AAA titles. Notice, no "2" or "3" after those names. Why? Because they are orginal titles, unlike Halo "3" I will give the xBox one thing, well maybe two. It still has the best game ever made, Gears. And BioShock is a great new title for the system. It just seems the FPS genre is a little overcrowed on the xBox, with not much new or different(Viva Pinata is about it, right?) To each their own, though. Enjoy the 360!!!!!!

[iacas]

You are right on the PS2 and the Wii, which no offense, but it's not a next gen console. It's fun, for sure, but next gen, not really. Check out the specs. It's basically the GameCube with motion sensing abilities.

Specs don't make a next-gen console. Well, they do to people who care about specs... I'm past that. I want something to be enjoyable, and with the Wii, it is.

Would I rather it had 1080p graphics and the same gameplay? Sure. But it's next-gen in a different way: it's upgraded the FUN of a console dramatically. Other consoles upgraded their graphics capabilities. Nintendo updated their console's fun capabilities. I'm being little more than half serious here, but I think you get my point. It ain't about specs anymore, and if you want to quote specs, you're missing the point that a game console is about having fun. The sales numbers bear that out (though the Wii's price point no doubt helps). So, yeah, whatever. I'm 29, so my true gaming days are behind me. I'm just looking for things I can play quickly and for 20 minutes at a time these days.

[janzaruk]

Specs don't make a next-gen console. Well, they do to people who care about specs... I'm past that. I want something to be enjoyable, and with the Wii, it is.

Maybe so, maybe not. I don't personally enjoy the Wii that much. It was fun the first month or so I got it for my girlfriend, but it just sits there now. Specs ARE relevant, and so is fun. But high specs draw the best developers, so saying specs don't really matter is a strech.

it's upgraded the FUN of a console dramatically. Other consoles upgraded their graphics capabilities. Nintendo updated their console's fun capabilities.

Once again, I would disagree. There are three, maybe four titles worth buying right now, and yes the virtual console is cool, but I have a NES for those games. Fun, my forum friend, is in the eye of the beholder

The sales numbers bear that out (though the Wii's price point no doubt helps).

If sales determine the best product on the market, I better get rid of my Apple laptop

. I'm just saying, sales do not equal quality. Suckering a bunch of soccer moms and teenagers into buyign something is good marketing, not a great product.

So, yeah, whatever. I'm 29, so my true gaming days are behind me. I'm just looking for things I can play quickly and for 20 minutes at a time these days.

AHA, my point. You are no longer a "gamer". You may still enjoy video games, but the gamer in you is no longer there. I understad, life, kids, and GOLF can get in the way, but I am glad you said this. It makes your argument understadable. But, I'm 32 and still game 20+ hours a week. I have no kids, no family close by, and LONG cold winters in Indiana.

[iacas]

Specs ARE relevant, and so is fun. But high specs draw the best developers, so saying specs don't really matter is a strech.

Specs don't draw developers. In fact, high specs push developers away because the cost of development increases.

Console sales draw developers. Basic economics 101 mixed with a little "follow the money" common sense.

If sales determine the best product on the market, I better get rid of my Apple laptop

I'm an Apple developer, used to work for Apple, the whole nine yards. Apple sells more computers than almost every other computer manufacturer. It's the OS that has a smaller market share. With consoles, of course, each has their own OS. You're not comparing apples to, well, Apples here.

I'm just saying, sales do not equal quality.

I never said they did. Sales do, however, indicate what consumers deem worthy of purchase, which is about the only subjective way of measuring quality that we've got.

AHA, my point. You are no longer a "gamer".

Not really, but I used to be editor of a multi-million dollar video game network of websites, so I've got some background on the industry. The fact that I'm no longer a hard-core gamer doesn't change my position or the points I've made.

[janzaruk]

I do believe, with a lot of confidence, you are wrong about the specs debate.

[iacas]

I do believe, with a lot of confidence, you are wrong about the specs debate.

And I believe with a lot of confidence, backed by industry experience and some common sense, that you're wrong. Whoopty doo.

Gee, where'd that get us? Nowhere... which is another of my points. Who cares? Go play your PS3. Again, your enjoyment of it shouldn't be changed by sales numbers or what someone else thinks. P.S. I'm not mad. Quite the opposite.

[Dent]

Cant go wrong with Nintendo 64!!!!

[iacas]

Cant go wrong with Nintendo 64!!!!

Groundbreaking, that one. Mario 64 blew so many people away, and I still think Goldeneye is one of the best games ever made.

[janzaruk]

I still think Goldeneye is one of the best games ever made.

Often imitated, never replicated

[gr8hntr]

i love playin w/ my wii
gr8 fun and ya get in a little work out too

[The Rambler]

I love the n64...but i dont have the actual console. laptop emulators rule! Mario kart 64. Smash bros. all kinds of games. too bad golden eye is so hard to play. But on the bright side a version of it was made using a quake mod

[Guest ShadowXOR]

The ultimate combo for me: Xbox 360, Wii, DS, and PS2. A nice gaming PC would be great but they are just too expensive these days...

I was looking forward to the PS3 so much I sold my PS2...then I ended up buying a new slim PS2 because the PS3 has been a huge disappointment and all of my favorite games are coming to the 360 now anyway.

[janzaruk]

and all of my favorite games are coming to the 360 now anyway.

Not a Metal Gear, Tekken, or Hot Shots fan;)

I love the 360 as well, BioShock will be game of the year, but don't count out the PS3 yet, it's still gotta couple bullets left to shoot(LittleBigPlanet/Drakes/Heavenly Sword(maybe)). And if you get a chance, check out Warhawk online. If you remotely love Call of Duty/Metal of Honor type games, it's AAA.

[Guest ShadowXOR]

Not a Metal Gear, Tekken, or Hot Shots fan;)

Metal Gear is O.K. but I'm kind of sick of them. Plus I think it will come to 360 anyway (and I probably still won't buy it, maybe rent). I've never liked Tekken. I'm sad to miss Hot Shots, but Fore! has so much content on PS2 I really don't care (and can still be played online).

Little Big Planet looks great but I have no interested in Warhawk, Drake, or Heavenly Sword. I'm in the Call of Duty 4 beta right now (only the 360 version gets the beta) and it is FANTASTIC. I miss very few things by not having a PS3, and save $500+. I'm not saying it doesn't have its games but it doesn't justify the price in my eyes. For just a little bit more I can have a 360 and Wii and miss out on what...maybe one game that I want for PS3. And Blu-ray doesn't do it for me. I have a 52" HDTV but I find 720p to be more than enough (the 360 HD-DVD player) and I also prefer HD-DVD as a format on the whole. Either way I still haven't even purchased the 360 HD-DVD player so I guess that shows how much I care. I still rent DVDs (Netflix) and they look fantastic.

[janzaruk]

Metal Gear is O.K. but I'm kind of sick of them. Plus I think it will come to 360 anyway (and I probably still won't buy it, maybe rent). I've never liked Tekken. I'm sad to miss Hot Shots, but Fore! has so much content on PS2 I really don't care (and can still be played online).

Glad to hear CoD4 is sweet. Looking forward to it. Looks like your set for your gaming needs. ENJOY