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I've been reading a lot of ads lately talking about high launch low spin driver create the max. distance.

What is it exactly? How do you combine the right shaft and driver head to create that?
Whats in my Golf Bag:
Driver: Nike Sumo 5000
5 Wood: Mizuno MP-001
Iron: Mizuno MX-950 5-PW
Wedge: Cobra FP 60 degrePutter: Odyssey 2-BallBall: Yellow balls

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I've been reading a lot of ads lately talking about high launch low spin driver create the max. distance.

Two words: proper fitting.

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Two words: proper fitting.

How about those High launch shaft? Do they really create high launch even though you are using a 9.5 loft driver?

Whats in my Golf Bag:
Driver: Nike Sumo 5000
5 Wood: Mizuno MP-001
Iron: Mizuno MX-950 5-PW
Wedge: Cobra FP 60 degrePutter: Odyssey 2-BallBall: Yellow balls

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I think the Hi-bore is a high launch low spin driver. Probally has something to do with center of gravity and MOI. I have now idea. Certain shafts will give you a higher launch. SOme shafts ive hit seem to have softer tips (Hi-bores gold shaft) that result in a higher launch.
IN THE BAG:

Driver- 907 D2 9.5 w/ Aldila "Proto By You" Stiff
3 Wood- 975 w/ Aldila NV
5 Wood- 975 w/ Aldila NVIrons- 806CB w/ Black shaftsWedges- Vokey 52*,56*,60*Putter- NewportBall- Pro V1

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I think the Hi-bore is a high launch low spin driver. Probally has something to do with center of gravity and MOI. I have now idea. Certain shafts will give you a higher launch. SOme shafts ive hit seem to have softer tips (Hi-bores gold shaft) that result in a higher launch.

And that shaft SUCKED, atleast for me.. It went WAAAAYYY to high!!!

Now I have my new shaft in my signature, and love it!! Remember the hibore is just that, HI LAUNCHING and it will launch high no matter what.

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I would also agree that gold shaft sucks. I didnt mind the red one though. PROTO BY YOU, Pro V2 and the DIamana are my favs
IN THE BAG:

Driver- 907 D2 9.5 w/ Aldila "Proto By You" Stiff
3 Wood- 975 w/ Aldila NV
5 Wood- 975 w/ Aldila NVIrons- 806CB w/ Black shaftsWedges- Vokey 52*,56*,60*Putter- NewportBall- Pro V1

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I would also agree that gold shaft sucks. I didnt mind the red one though. PROTO BY YOU, Pro V2 and the DIamana are my favs

Were there really any differences between the gold and red? I thought they were the same shaft, just different colors? LOL

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Were there really any differences between the gold and red? I thought they were the same shaft, just different colors?

There were significant differences, yes.

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perhaps a helpful story:

I purchased the hibore 10.5 driver with fuji reg flex shaft two days ago, and being in sort of a rush didnt hit it at the store or anything and just figured id go with my old driver specs and be fine. later that day i made it out to the driving range and proceeded to hit a bucket with my new purchase. the launch angle seemed rediculously high to me and was only carrying around 200 which is around or only slightly farther than my EXTREMELY outdated driver(got it when i was 14, now 21, i know.) So i pouted about it and waited until the next day to make it back to the store. I went back to Golfsmith, and proceeded to hit and get fitted for a new hibore. The results shows that my swing would be best fitted with a 9.5 ust stiff flex, quite different than what i thought was correct. made it out the the range, carrying 220-230 and still a nice high ball flight. the point of this story is that the hibore and most of these 'high launch low spin' drivers on the market almost demand you to get fitted because of their significant ability to get balls up in the air. what you believe to be correct for you might be way off, but as a general rule of thumb id say stay away of a higher angle paired with a soft shaft with a low kickpoint unless you just cannot get your driver in the air, because all these things working together to get the ball up along with the drivers head weighting seem to get the ball a little too high for most.

Hi-Bore 9.5° w/ UST pro-force v2 Stiff
Halo 1i 16°
Halo 3i 22°
735.cm 4-PW
Vokey 52.8, Vokey Spin-Milled 56.10, 60.4 Sophia 32" or Studio Design 1 34"


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if you know Hibore is a high launch driver... then pick a low trajectory shaft (high bendpoint) to make the ball a bit lower.

Later, I found out, low spin is created by really high swing speed.
perhaps a helpful story:

Whats in my Golf Bag:
Driver: Nike Sumo 5000
5 Wood: Mizuno MP-001
Iron: Mizuno MX-950 5-PW
Wedge: Cobra FP 60 degrePutter: Odyssey 2-BallBall: Yellow balls

Posted
if you know Hibore is a high launch driver... then pick a low trajectory shaft (high bendpoint) to make the ball a bit lower.

I'm pretty sure higher swing speeds are going to create higher spin; that is certainly the case with irons.


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I think everything you need to know has been posted in this thread already. Just a couple of other pointers... in relation to shafts, different manufacturers will produce different shafts for different swing speeds and launch conditions depending on variables such as shaft flex, kick point, shaft materials etc...

From personal experience (i've trialled Graphite Design YS-6, Grafalloy Blue and Fujikura Speeder 757 all in stiff flex) and the Fujikura is by far a lower launching and more penetrating shaft than the Grafalloy which launches the ball high with ease. Interestingly, I have found my Fujikura to be much more accurate, penetrating and gaining greater distance than the Grafalloy.

However, these shafts must be married up with different club heads. As you aware aware, different driver heads from different manufacturers will create different MOI and different perimeter weighting positions, thus affecting 'sweet spot' and launch conditions of the golf ball depending on where you hit it on the face.

So in essence, a very difficult question to answer and will vary depending on varying combinations of shaft type with club head, as well as your specific swing.

As stated in previous posts, the best and probably only way to optimize a low spin high launching driver is to get fitted probably. A process which i went through with Callaway and took a good few hours and hitting hundreds of balls. If you do it, make sure you've got the time and fitness to produce a repeatable swing !!!!

Hope this helps

What's in my bag:

Driver: r7 9.5 deg, Fujikura Speeder 757 S
3 wood: G5 13 deg, Grafalloy ProLaunch Blue, S
2 Hybrid: 2H FT hybrid, Aldila NVS S4 Hybrid: 4H FT hybrid, Adlila NVS SIrons: 5-PW Big Bertha 04, UniflexWedges: CG10 52 deg, 56 deg, 60 deg, Black PearlPutter: Ug-Le 34"Ball: ...


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if you know Hibore is a high launch driver... then pick a low trajectory shaft (high bendpoint) to make the ball a bit lower.

Thats exactly what i was trying to say... guess i didnt get the point across :\

Hi-Bore 9.5° w/ UST pro-force v2 Stiff
Halo 1i 16°
Halo 3i 22°
735.cm 4-PW
Vokey 52.8, Vokey Spin-Milled 56.10, 60.4 Sophia 32" or Studio Design 1 34"


Posted
I love the hibore xl with red and gold shafts, but I tried the cobra hs9 x and love it, for me more distance and straight for now but with my swing can change any day. The only reason I tried the HS 9 was because of the new l4v.

Driver: Cobra HS9 X 9.0 YS Stiff
Hybrid: Cobra baffler DWS 16* NV Stiff
Hybrid: Cobra baffler DWS 20* NV Stiff
Irons: King Cobra FP 4-LW
Putter: Cobra Optica SL-01 Ball: Bridgestone B330


Posted

You get fitted using a launch monitor

I ended up with a TM Burner 10.5 w/ a Grafalloy ProLaunch Blue 65g stiff shaft. Seems to have worked... I'm hitting my drives between 230-270 whereas before, with my stock TM R5XL, I was topping out around 230. I've used my new TM at the driving range and about 10 rounds of golf so I think I'm over the "placebo effect".

But honestly, go to your local retailer and have them fit you for a driver. I don't think brand matters that much, go with what gives you confidence for brand name. You're really just interested in the specs (loft, launch angle, ball speed, spin rate....). Oh that's another thing picking the right ball can help too.

Typically if you end up buying the driver they give you the fitting session for free.. .Otherwise it will cost you about $30.

In My Bag:

Driver: 9.5° FT-i LCG
3-wood: 15° X Tour
Hybrid: 18° FT HybridHybrid: 23° Baffler ProIrons: X-20 Tour 5-9Wedges: CG 12 Black Pearl 46/50/56/60Putter: 32" X3Ball: TP BlackHome Course: Blackmoor Golf Club (136/71.2)

Posted
high launch+no spin=Doesnt exist.

In my Warbird Bag,
I have
Burner Driver 460cc 9.5* Stiff
Three and Five Woods
Precise- 21* and 24* hybridsCCi Cast Irons-4-AW 52* and 56*/14 Vokey 60*/8and i play TP Black or ProV1


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