Please look at these numbers and help me improve

[Wayne OReilly]

Hi guys can someone help me understand the numbers better , I was told Swing plane and face to path are the critical data

[SavvySwede]

What sort of device did this data come from? Some of those categories are new to me.

[Wayne OReilly]

It's a swing talk http://www.swingtalkgolf.com

Any help would be appreciated

[SavvySwede]

Well -16.8* face to path and 6.0* path should result in a pretty big pull hook. I wouldn't trust data from that sort of device to be accurate though.

[saevel25]

Hi guys can someone help me understand the numbers better , I was told Swing plane and face to path are the critical data

Of course I have no clue what club that is. I assume that this device has been set up such that the target line is zero.

By this, it tells me your face to path is 10.8 degrees closed, which is a lot. It also tells me your face is 16.8 degrees closed to your swing path, which is a lot.

At least the device registered a swing path that makes sense. +6 degrees outward. Which is moderately high swing path outwardly.

By this information I would say that the ball flight of that particular shot would be a pull hook. The ball should have started about 6-7 degrees left of the target line and go hard left.

You are setting up with the face 10.8 degrees closed. You are basically returning it there at impact because your swing path is +6.0 degrees. Which accounts for that 16.8 closed value.

I'd open that clubface up so it is slightly open to your target line and hit your normal shot. You should be able to hit a functional push draw.

[Wayne OReilly]

I have been struggling with a pull hook, I was told to adjust my takeaway and it has helped bring my swing plane higher less around my body, I have loads of swings recorded, so I need to get the numbers closer ?

[Wayne OReilly]

Yes to help keep the ball in play I was setting up face open pointing right of target and it was helping to keep in play, now I need to find a way to correct the club face

[saevel25]

I have been struggling with a pull hook, I was told to adjust my takeaway and it has helped bring my swing plane higher less around my body, I have loads of swings recorded, so I need to get the numbers closer ?

A 6 degree swing path out is a functional number.

I'd say your swing is a tad steep, but it isn't crazy high.

I'd make sure your set up is good in that the club isn't pointing way left.

You set up with a 10 degree closed clubface and return it 10 degrees closed. It isn't like you are setting up square (zero) and returning it closed.

Open it up and hit a push draw.

[Wayne OReilly]

I find it interesting that you say my swing is a tad steep, in the 3D rendered version it is still slightly under the optimal plane they show

[saevel25]

I find it interesting that you say my swing is a tad steep, in the 3D rendered version it is still slightly under the optimal plane they show

A 5 degree angle of attack at impact is a tad steep. PGA Tour average for wedges is 5 degrees. The rest of their irons average less than 5 degrees.

Who says their optimal plane is correct?

[Wayne OReilly]

The app gives us a pro's swing plane its the red lines ... mine are the blue, so my angle of attack is a little steep ... the plane is a little flat that was why I was getting stuck behind me, and for that we adjusted my take away ... moving straight back and less around me

[Pretzel]

A 5 degree angle of attack at impact is a tad steep. PGA Tour average for wedges is 5 degrees. The rest of their irons average less than 5 degrees.  Who says their optimal plane is correct?

I think you two are talking two different definitions of steep.-5* angle of attack means you are hitting down quite a bit (hit down steeply) with the club, not that your swing itself is on a steep path.

[Wayne OReilly]

Thanks for the help now I understand the numbers a little better, I think I will be able to find info on how to get the numbers to move in the proper directions