Inflated Cost of AIDS Medicine

[saevel25]

The more I post I find there's lots of far right wing nut cases in most of the threads. It's sad but true ;{)

So instead of coming back with logic and facts you just decide to label use extremist nut jobs. way to make your argument credible. [quote name="jcjim" url="/t/84584/inflated-cost-of-aids-medicine/30#post_1205601"] Oh how predictable some are when they have nothing to say. The left wing nut cases are at lease for people The right wing nut cases are for getting rid of people pathetic but true [/quote] Hypocrite, you first call us a nut job and then you complain when someone calls you one.

[jcjim]

So instead of coming back with logic and facts you just decide to label use extremist nut jobs.

way to make your argument credible.

Hypocrite, you first call us a nut job and then you complain when someone calls you one.

Everything I say has logic.

Extremists are nut jobs there's nothing else they can be.

It looks like trying to make something creditable to you requires a stretch of the truth'

See you said it yourself, you are a extremist.

You call me a hypocrite. I'm for people , if you like being for corporations then fine be what you want but billionaires and corporations don't need your help but the people, the ones that you are NOT for need some of that help.

[saevel25]

Everything I say has logic. Extremists are nut jobs there's nothing else they can be. It looks like trying to make something creditable to you requires a stretch of the truth' See you said it yourself, you are a extremist. You call me a hypocrite. I'm for people , if you like being for corporations then fine be what you want but billionaires and corporations don't need your help but the people, the ones that you are NOT for need some of that help.

Who said I was for corporations? How am I an extremist?

[Gunther]

Everything I say has logic. Extremists are nut jobs there's nothing else they can be. It looks like trying to make something creditable to you requires a stretch of the truth' See you said it yourself, you are a extremist. You call me a hypocrite. I'm for people , if you like being for corporations then fine be what you want but billionaires and corporations don't need your help but the people, the ones that you are NOT for need some of that help.

There really is no logic in this irrational hatred of corporations. Corporations are people, as are their shareholders. So, they are inherently "for the people." Not sure what you would view as fair when 50% of people in this country pay 0 income tax but let's say the govt increases tax rates on the rich and corporations to 80%? This would result in maybe 75 or 80% of the people not paying income tax. It would also result in massive layoffs and all of those nasty corporations dramatically increasing the cost of whatever goods or services they provide. Do you think this approach would be "for the people?" Or, how about we transform the tax code, thereby lowering effective tax rates for the rich and corporations which would allow them to hire more folks, getting perhaps now 75% of the people engaged and participating in the productivity of this country? This would be a "for the people" initiative, don't you think?

[saevel25]

Or, how about we transform the tax code, thereby lowering effective tax rates for the rich and corporations which would allow them to hire more folks, getting perhaps now 75% of the people engaged and participating in the productivity of this country? This would be a "for the people" initiative, don't you think?

Its a bit more complicated than that.

Even if the tax code was lowered for them. You would have to still overcome the cost of actually paying that person typical US wages and benefits. In the end even if corporations paid no taxes it might still be more cost effective to have their businesses overseas.

[Gunther]

Its a bit more complicated than that.  Even if the tax code was lowered for them. You would have to still overcome the cost of actually paying that person typical US wages and benefits. In the end even if corporations paid no taxes it might still be more cost effective to have their businesses overseas.

Of course it is but the principles apply. In general, lowering taxes on business will be more beneficial to "people" than the opposite.

[David in FL]

Extremists are nut jobs there's nothing else they can be.

Yes. Yes you are.... :-D

[Gator Hazard]

Agreed. Bitter troll sound bites. Chip on his shoulder.

[jcjim]

It's 2015 now and the number of doctors accepting Medicare is down to 83.7 according to the CDC, so using your 2013 numbers it means 13% less doctors take Medicare today.

I guess you read one article in Forbes from 2013, here's some more detailed data from the CDC;

You bitch at me for posting something fro 2013 and the you post pages of text fro 2010 and other years. Just for clarification did you have permission to copy those pages and does this forum allow posts that are copy righted?

There really is no logic in this irrational hatred of corporations. Corporations are people, as are their shareholders. So, they are inherently "for the people."

Not sure what you would view as fair when 50% of people in this country pay 0 income tax but let's say the govt increases tax rates on the rich and corporations to 80%? This would result in maybe 75 or 80% of the people not paying income tax. It would also result in massive layoffs and all of those nasty corporations dramatically increasing the cost of whatever goods or services they provide. Do you think this approach would be "for the people?"

Or, how about we transform the tax code, thereby lowering effective tax rates for the rich and corporations which would allow them to hire more folks, getting perhaps now 75% of the people engaged and participating in the productivity of this country? This would be a "for the people" initiative, don't you think?

1.Cancel all loop hole for corporations and the rich.VERY BIG

2.Print new money and cancel the value of any old money outside the USA unless it is returned to USA by a certain date.

3Tax all imports at the rate the importing country taxes our imports.

4 Remove all US troops from foreign countries.

5.Stop all payments to foreign countries.

6.Make all countries defend themselves or PAY for US defense

7.Charge corporations for security in foreign countries.

8,Tax Wall Street for all trades, (all the other countries do) THIS IS A BIG ONE

9.Pass laws that separate banks, investment firms, brokerages and insurance co.neither can be in the other businesses

10 Limit a corporation value at 10 billion dollars. if they want to get bigger open another corp.

11.Inforce monopoly laws

12 Any corporations that employ aliens will be fined $50.000 per alien first offence second offence jail term and fine.

13 Jail only murders and a few other bad guys. and pay Mexico etc. to house them in jails.

14 Make health care a non- profit and single payer

15 All education is free. no one can charge.

There are many many more but I'll end here for now. You want a fair country this a start but just a start

Sorry I don't want to answer single posts because there to many silly ones. and ones that just try to prove me wrong.

[saevel25]

Keep the comments on topic please. Anything related to numbers 1-13 and #15 are not on topic. Health care system regarding pharmaceutical would be on topic.

[jcjim]

jcjim- you seem like a guy that enjoys being a victim.

How's that working out for you?

You seem like a guy that enjoys one thing.. I get this image of you sitting in the corner

of a dark basement typing with your left hand and ----------with your right nono you know

what your mom told you......Smart a$$ remarks get one back kennie

[jgreen85]

In this case, I don't think a new law limiting this is necessary. What needs to happen is the firing and public shaming of this CEO and those like him. In this country, it's fine to make a profit if you add value to someone's life; it's wrong to profiteer. This guy is simply displaying what's wrong with wall street and a large proportion of the 1%: if it ain't illegal, DO IT! No morals and no sense of right/wrong. This person needs to receive the negative consequences of his anti-social behavior. He needs to be ostracized and ignored by society until he behaves in a socially acceptable manner.