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So many Edel threads, sorry for another!

I have an Edel fitter very near me and have strongly been considering going there.  Putting is the worst part of my game - I know most of that is me, but confidence in equipment couldn't hurt I figure.  I've done a ton of google searching on the topic, and I keep coming back to one thing I can't figure out.  It seems a lot of the process is to fix the aiming, getting the putter to aim straight based on what you're seeing.  Using seemore as an example (not because I'm considering seemore, but because I saw a seemore vs. edel thread that made me think of this), I'm trying to figure out why my aiming method wouldn't work well/better/comparable to the edel model.  I never fool myself into thinking I'm aiming straight at the hole just by standing over the putt and looking at the hole from the side.  I simply place my ball with the aiming line pointed at the hole/line, and then square the putter with the alignment line lined up exactly to the line on my ball and try to square myself up to the line on the ball.  Looking at the hole to aim at the point is almost irrelevant (in my mind).  Say I had a seemore, if I line up the putter head with the ball based on this method, wouldn't I have to be square to my intended line to hide their dot?  I'm sure there's way more to it than that, but interested in thoughts.  

Also, if I did an Edel fitting, would they want me to aim without the alignment aid on the ball, so that they can see my natural tendencies without that, or would they have me aim how I normally would?  If they didn't want me to use some ball alignment method, would my putter then be off if I did use that method on the course and aimed differently?  I'm on the edge of booking an appointment, just not quite there yet?  


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6 hours ago, xiek376 said:

Using seemore as an example (not because I'm considering seemore, but because I saw a seemore vs. edel thread that made me think of this), I'm trying to figure out why my aiming method wouldn't work well/better/comparable to the edel model. I never fool myself into thinking I'm aiming straight at the hole just by standing over the putt and looking at the hole from the side.  I simply place my ball with the aiming line pointed at the hole/line, and then square the putter with the alignment line lined up exactly to the line on my ball and try to square myself up to the line on the ball.  Looking at the hole to aim at the point is almost irrelevant (in my mind).  Say I had a seemore, if I line up the putter head with the ball based on this method, wouldn't I have to be square to my intended line to hide their dot?  I'm sure there's way more to it than that, but interested in thoughts.

Actually, in my testing, most people can't line the line up on a ball where they think they are aiming it.

People can't aim their putters because they think what's square is open or closed - so they close it or open it, respectively. The brain sees what it wants to see. I can put a putter square and you'll see it open or closed.

It's really that simple.

6 hours ago, xiek376 said:

Also, if I did an Edel fitting, would they want me to aim without the alignment aid on the ball, so that they can see my natural tendencies without that, or would they have me aim how I normally would?  If they didn't want me to use some ball alignment method, would my putter then be off if I did use that method on the course and aimed differently?  I'm on the edge of booking an appointment, just not quite there yet?  

I honestly bet that you don't aim your line on your ball as well as you think, and I encourage players to just leave the white part of the ball facing up.

Plus it saves you time trying to aim that line precisely.

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Thanks for the reply!  Yes, I agree, it's doubtful I'm as accurate as I think in lining up the line on the ball.  It feels like I'm more accurate this way vs. the alternative of trying to line it without this aid.  I appreciate the feedback and think I will give the edel fitting a go. 

Do you have an opinion on where someone should be as far as confidence in having a good putting stroke in place before going in for a fitting? 


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What does does an Edel putter fitting and putter run?

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On May 9, 2016 at 11:16 AM, cnl390 said:

What does does an Edel putter fitting and putter run?

That depends on the fitter. For example, I don't charge for the fitting if the golfer buys the putter.

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On May 5, 2016 at 11:35 PM, iacas said:

Actually, in my testing, most people can't line the line up on a ball where they think they are aiming it.

People can't aim their putters because they think what's square is open or closed - so they close it or open it, respectively. The brain sees what it wants to see. I can put a putter square and you'll see it open or closed.

It's really that simple.

I honestly bet that you don't aim your line on your ball as well as you think, and I encourage players to just leave the white part of the ball facing up.

Plus it saves you time trying to aim that line precisely.

This was me to as tee, I aim much better without any alignment aid, and if in fact, as Iacas noted, I stopped using the lettering for aiming purposes and I've never putted better since I got the Edel putter.  Best purchase I have ever made for a putter  Once I stopped using the lettering as an alignment aid (didn't aid much), it made me focus on a spot on the green for my line which then made me concentrate more to hit it down my line.  

I'd recommend the Edel fitting to anyone.  

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iacas,

I was talking to troy m today about these putters i tried his, will you have them to demo @ Chautauqua this year?

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38 minutes ago, mlb12 said:

I was talking to troy m today about these putters i tried his, will you have them to demo @ Chautauqua this year?

Yes, I think we'll have our putter fitting kit over there this year.

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Excellent,

Thanks 

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May I ask a technical question here?

Do any of you know the trick to removing a weight from an Edel? I have a new Brick and cannot get that little b@$***d out. It only turns a little in either direction. I don't think one has to snap it like those stubborn Cameron weights.

Thanks!

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2 hours ago, Tat14 said:

May I ask a technical question here?

Do any of you know the trick to removing a weight from an Edel? I have a new Brick and cannot get that little b@$***d out. It only turns a little in either direction. I don't think one has to snap it like those stubborn Cameron weights.

Thanks!

Turn it more. That's all there is to it.

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20 hours ago, iacas said:

Turn it more. That's all there is to it.

 

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