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Realizing there are a lot of parameters to consider, but what are the major differences/preferences between the Fujikura Fuel (made for Tour Edge Exotics) and the Ozik Matrix "Tie" line. One reason I have for asking is that I have found it is not easy to find simply an Exotics Tip compatible with an older model hosel adapter (xgc7) head and I spied a shaft on ebay with the right tip on it, and I am tempted to buy the shaft just so I can get the shaft tip. fwiw, the one on ebay is the Fujikura for about $49 (60g stiff).

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:titleist: 913 D3 with Aldila RIP Phenom 60 4,2 Regular Shaft,  :touredge: Exotics XCG-7 Beta 3W with Matrix Red Tie Shaft:touredge: Exotics EX8 19 deg Hybrid w UST Mamiya Recoil F3 Shaft:touredge: Exotics EX9 28 deg Hybrid w UST Mamiya Recoil F3  shaft, / Bobby Jones Black 22 deg Hybrid:touredge: Exotics EXi 6 -PW  w UST Mamiya Recoil F2 Shaft, SW (56),GW (52),LW (60):touredge:  TGS),/ ODDYSEE Metal-X #7 customized putter (400G, cut down Mid Belly)

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nobody offered opinion, so went ahead and ordered the shaft. I am confident it will work out okay. I would wager that the shafts I mentioned above are fairly similar anyway. 

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:titleist: 913 D3 with Aldila RIP Phenom 60 4,2 Regular Shaft,  :touredge: Exotics XCG-7 Beta 3W with Matrix Red Tie Shaft:touredge: Exotics EX8 19 deg Hybrid w UST Mamiya Recoil F3 Shaft:touredge: Exotics EX9 28 deg Hybrid w UST Mamiya Recoil F3  shaft, / Bobby Jones Black 22 deg Hybrid:touredge: Exotics EXi 6 -PW  w UST Mamiya Recoil F2 Shaft, SW (56),GW (52),LW (60):touredge:  TGS),/ ODDYSEE Metal-X #7 customized putter (400G, cut down Mid Belly)

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38 minutes ago, Buckeyebowman said:

You probably didn't get any replies because shafts are the bizarro world of golf!

huh?  lost me there.  No matter, just curious.

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:titleist: 913 D3 with Aldila RIP Phenom 60 4,2 Regular Shaft,  :touredge: Exotics XCG-7 Beta 3W with Matrix Red Tie Shaft:touredge: Exotics EX8 19 deg Hybrid w UST Mamiya Recoil F3 Shaft:touredge: Exotics EX9 28 deg Hybrid w UST Mamiya Recoil F3  shaft, / Bobby Jones Black 22 deg Hybrid:touredge: Exotics EXi 6 -PW  w UST Mamiya Recoil F2 Shaft, SW (56),GW (52),LW (60):touredge:  TGS),/ ODDYSEE Metal-X #7 customized putter (400G, cut down Mid Belly)

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On 6/13/2017 at 0:46 PM, Hacker James said:

Realizing there are a lot of parameters to consider, but what are the major differences/preferences between the Fujikura Fuel (made for Tour Edge Exotics) and the Ozik Matrix "Tie" line. One reason I have for asking is that I have found it is not easy to find simply an Exotics Tip compatible with an older model hosel adapter (xgc7) head and I spied a shaft on ebay with the right tip on it, and I am tempted to buy the shaft just so I can get the shaft tip. fwiw, the one on ebay is the Fujikura for about $49 (60g stiff).

I usually go to the Golfworks site. They have lots of info comparing shafts. Matrix doesn't have the Ozik listed on their site anymore. Golfworks has a rating system and some pdfs with the older shafts shown.

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I guess there are hundreds of shafts nowadays.  I had not really paid that close attention in the past. From my limited observations, it appears to me that the most common are UST Mamiya, Fujikura, Matrix.  Before that, the only names that came to mind were Tru Temper, Rifle, and Graffalloy, Aldila.   Anyway, come Monday, I will have two shafts to swap out on the Tour Edge Driver I gots.  An old dinosaur like me is kinda like waking up after being buried in the ice for eons and noting how much the world has changed. What's  new and exciting to me, is old hat to others.

Thanks for the replies.

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:titleist: 913 D3 with Aldila RIP Phenom 60 4,2 Regular Shaft,  :touredge: Exotics XCG-7 Beta 3W with Matrix Red Tie Shaft:touredge: Exotics EX8 19 deg Hybrid w UST Mamiya Recoil F3 Shaft:touredge: Exotics EX9 28 deg Hybrid w UST Mamiya Recoil F3  shaft, / Bobby Jones Black 22 deg Hybrid:touredge: Exotics EXi 6 -PW  w UST Mamiya Recoil F2 Shaft, SW (56),GW (52),LW (60):touredge:  TGS),/ ODDYSEE Metal-X #7 customized putter (400G, cut down Mid Belly)

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Received shaft 2 days early!  Looks great. Red Graphics, white lettering, on black shaft, It is the Fuji Fuel 60-s made for Exotics. Have not used it yet, feels very balanced and with normal 9.5 deg setting, sets up well at address. Hits into net are solid and consistent, but only actual play will tell.

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:titleist: 913 D3 with Aldila RIP Phenom 60 4,2 Regular Shaft,  :touredge: Exotics XCG-7 Beta 3W with Matrix Red Tie Shaft:touredge: Exotics EX8 19 deg Hybrid w UST Mamiya Recoil F3 Shaft:touredge: Exotics EX9 28 deg Hybrid w UST Mamiya Recoil F3  shaft, / Bobby Jones Black 22 deg Hybrid:touredge: Exotics EXi 6 -PW  w UST Mamiya Recoil F2 Shaft, SW (56),GW (52),LW (60):touredge:  TGS),/ ODDYSEE Metal-X #7 customized putter (400G, cut down Mid Belly)

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I heard somewhere that the made for Fuel was smoother than the non made for...which is a good thing.  The Tie series u can look up.  I had a white tie, played soft was supposed to be high launch low spin but never found it to be high launching.  Not really impressed with it.  We had a red tie at work and that played stiff to flex but it felt better than the white.  The black tie I just stay away from, too low everything for me.

 

I happen to like a softer butt shaft anyway.

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So far the Fuel is super smooth in practice, even at 9.5 deg std, it feels as if there will be no problem in a mid/high launch. Only hit into a net a dozen or so times, but feels like one of the best shafts I have ever driven. The white tie was not bad, but you need to be precise. I also have a Red Tie on a fairway wood, and its pretty good.

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:titleist: 913 D3 with Aldila RIP Phenom 60 4,2 Regular Shaft,  :touredge: Exotics XCG-7 Beta 3W with Matrix Red Tie Shaft:touredge: Exotics EX8 19 deg Hybrid w UST Mamiya Recoil F3 Shaft:touredge: Exotics EX9 28 deg Hybrid w UST Mamiya Recoil F3  shaft, / Bobby Jones Black 22 deg Hybrid:touredge: Exotics EXi 6 -PW  w UST Mamiya Recoil F2 Shaft, SW (56),GW (52),LW (60):touredge:  TGS),/ ODDYSEE Metal-X #7 customized putter (400G, cut down Mid Belly)

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It seems a lot of Fuji shafts feel like that.  I have the stock pro60 in my M1 and even though everyone poo-poo's stock shafts, I love the feel.

The white tie...yeah...I don't know anyone that has one that likes it. 

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1 hour ago, Typhoon92 said:

 

The white tie...yeah...I don't know anyone that has one that likes it. 

Yep, seems as though lessons learned are often measured in dollars spent. I only got the White Tie as it was the shaft on the driver I wanted at the right price at the time (XCG-7) and reading all the hype about the Tie series of shafts. Then I swapped it out for a shaft with more flex I had on another driver (Hot Launch2), but then the graphics looked out of place and I wanted to find an Exotics tip which I found difficult until I found the Fuji with the tip already on it. Foolish chasing the rabbit down the hole, but now the club looks and feels perfect. "cudda saved a ton of money by going that route in the first place". Then again, I ain't the sharpest crayon in the box.  Anybody want a HL2 with White Tie Shaft? Cheap?

or how bout an HL2 Shaft with XCG7  tip on it?

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:titleist: 913 D3 with Aldila RIP Phenom 60 4,2 Regular Shaft,  :touredge: Exotics XCG-7 Beta 3W with Matrix Red Tie Shaft:touredge: Exotics EX8 19 deg Hybrid w UST Mamiya Recoil F3 Shaft:touredge: Exotics EX9 28 deg Hybrid w UST Mamiya Recoil F3  shaft, / Bobby Jones Black 22 deg Hybrid:touredge: Exotics EXi 6 -PW  w UST Mamiya Recoil F2 Shaft, SW (56),GW (52),LW (60):touredge:  TGS),/ ODDYSEE Metal-X #7 customized putter (400G, cut down Mid Belly)

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