Centered HipTurn/Weight Transfer in Backswing

[sirsteveo55]

I feel like I am struggling with a centered hip turn while controlling the proper weight transfer in the backswing.

If we say at address we are 50/50 weight on the left and right foot. In the backswing at the top what percentage of weight is on the back and front?

I ask this weight transfer question due to working on improving my centered hip turn and stopping myself from swaying backward. I feel when I have a centered hip turn my weight is not transferring to my back foot properly. I feel it is like 35 percent on the front and 65 percent on the rear. When I do not have a centered hip turn and I am swaying I feel my weight is more like 10 percent front and 90 percent rear. What percentage is supposed to be on what foot at the top of the backswing?

Another question I have is should your front foot heel stay on the ground or come off the ground in the backswing? 

I feel that when I have a centered hip turn my front foot heel stays on the ground, and I feel my weight transfer to my back foot is not enough. When I start to sway backward in my backswing my heels comes off the ground, but I feel like I get good weight transfer. Does this sound normal? Can anyone explain what I might be doing wrong or what I need to try?

 

[Jack Watson]

IMO opinion focusing directly on shifting weight doesn't make good things happen.  

Pressure moves but imo it's almost a result rather than something you try to manually create.

Swaying going back is a problem.  Wondering about certain percentages of pressure is more an obsession jmo.

[iacas]

11 minutes ago, sirsteveo55 said:

If we say at address we are 50/50 weight on the left and right foot. In the backswing at the top what percentage of weight is on the back and front?

It's often closer to 60/40 (or 55/45) left (at setup).

And at the top, if things stay centered, the arms still go back so the weight will be about 55% right, 45% left.

What you feel may be completely unlike that though, as the left leg is flexed, and supporting more weight with the muscles, while the right leg is extended and supporting more weight with bone.

11 minutes ago, sirsteveo55 said:

I ask this weight transfer question due to working on improving my centered hip turn and stopping myself from swaying backward. I feel when I have a centered hip turn my weight is not transferring to my back foot properly. I feel it is like 35 percent on the front and 65 percent on the rear. When I do not have a centered hip turn and I am swaying I feel my weight is more like 10 percent front and 90 percent rear. What percentage is supposed to be on what foot at the top of the backswing?

It's unlikely to be anywhere near even 65%, let alone 90%. Very little weight actually shifts.

But again, what you FEEL is completely… unimportant? Feel ain't real.

11 minutes ago, sirsteveo55 said:

Another question I have is should your front foot heel stay on the ground or come off the ground in the backswing?

Whatever's comfortable.

11 minutes ago, sirsteveo55 said:

I feel that when I have a centered hip turn my front foot heel stays on the ground, and I feel my weight transfer to my back foot is not enough. When I start to sway backward in my backswing my heels comes off the ground, but I feel like I get good weight transfer. Does this sound normal? Can anyone explain what I might be doing wrong or what I need to try?

Stop worrying about transferring weight. Very little weight transfers.

Worry about making the proper motion. Let whatever weight transfers do it via the proper mechanics. Don't worry about the actual specifics if you're not on a machine that can measure them.

[sirsteveo55]

1 minute ago, iacas said:

It's often closer to 60/40 (or 55/45) left (at setup).

And at the top, if things stay centered, the arms still go back so the weight will be about 55% right, 45% left.

What you feel may be completely unlike that though, as the left leg is flexed, and supporting more weight with the muscles, while the right leg is extended and supporting more weight with bone.

It's unlikely to be anywhere near even 65%, let alone 90%. Very little weight actually shifts.

But again, what you FEEL is completely… unimportant? Feel ain't real.

Whatever's comfortable.

Stop worrying about transferring weight. Very little weight transfers.

Worry about making the proper motion. Let whatever weight transfers do it via the proper mechanics. Don't worry about the actual specifics if you're not on a machine that can measure them.

Thank you for the clarification.

I always thought that there was more weight transferring in the backswing. Like an actual shift in weight from front to back then front again. I think thats why when I am preforming a centered hip turn it just feels so weird to me because I am always trying to transfer weight backwards. 

[iacas]

1 minute ago, sirsteveo55 said:

Thank you for the clarification.

I always thought that there was more weight transferring in the backswing. Like an actual shift in weight from front to back then front again. I think thats why when I am preforming a centered hip turn it just feels so weird to me because I am always trying to transfer weight backwards. 

You can google things like "weight and pressure site:thesandtrap.com" and find things here.

Note that when you're moving, you can't measure "weight". You can measure pressure, but pressure != weight.

[JonMA1]

9 minutes ago, sirsteveo55 said:

Thank you for the clarification.

I always thought that there was more weight transferring in the backswing. Like an actual shift in weight from front to back then front again. I think thats why when I am preforming a centered hip turn it just feels so weird to me because I am always trying to transfer weight backwards. 

The one valuable thing I took away from my Evolvr lessons was that I was "cheating" into getting my weight forward by having too much at address and during the backswing. Since I had all that weight forward, there wasn't anything to really transfer from the top down. The instructor had me exaggerate the feel of weight back at address (which probably brought it to even). He never said anything about adding more weight as I brought the club back however.

I doubt this has much to do with what you're describing. My swing faults are going to be different than anyone else's. But by starting with my weight better distributed or the feel of having just a bit more back before the start of the backswing, I believe it helped reduce the amount of hip sway and probably helped some other issues as well. 1 1/2 years later, it's something I still incorporate in my set up.