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I said in the first post actually that I was watching them from the box, saw them start to drive away, set up to my shot, and when I took a last look I saw them at the front of the bridge to go across it. Looked back down and hit my shot. I did take a last look, and they were a good clearance and out of range at the time. It's about 250 with some tree coverage near the bridge, no way I would have been able to hit them with my hybrid from where they were. The green was clear in front of them and they had already hit across so there was really no reason for them to come back. That's the part that confuses me, they had already hit across the ravine and were heading to the bridge for their next shot when they turned around. When I made a last check they were at the bridge.

So, finally had a day off and managed to get some guys together for a round of golf today. Four of us walking, a group of two in a cart in front of us. Anyway, hole 5 is a par 3 that has about a 100 foot elevation drop to the green. The tee box for #6 is off to the left about 40 yards left of the green. Two of us hit our tee shots onto the green, the other two yanked them left. One under a shrub, the other off the path and about 15 yards to the right of the #6 tee. Didn't seem to be any problem, we yelled to get their attention just in case. After finishing up the hole I was the first to tee off on #6. This is where the problem comes in. Number 6 is a 445 yard par 4 that has a ravine running across the fairway, 245 to the front of it, 325 to carry it. I can't even come close to getting over that so I decide to hit a hybrid which I typically hit about 225-230. The twosome in front of us was hitting balls from about 40 yards in front of the ravine, both guys hit. After that they get in their cart and drive towards the bridge. I figured it was safe and set up. I hit a dead straight hybrid shot in the middle of the fairway, but for some reason they drove back to the fairway as I was hitting. Noticed they were near the path of my ball and we began yelling "fore" at them. Guy picks up my ball and chucks it into the ravine, then him and one of the guys I was with get into a huge yelling match about the whole thing. The guy from the group in front was yelling that it was the second time we hit into them on purpose, guy in my group is yelling back that it was an accident since they drove over to the bridge across before coming back into the fairway and that it was a dick move to throw my ball into the ravine. We caught up to them a few holes later and everything seemed fine, general handshake, comments about how being out golfing in 70 degree sunny weather was better than working. I know I ended up hitting towards them, but I watched them hit two shots each to get to the point where they were 40 yards from the ravine, so they hit their third shot and then drove over to the bridge. I set up, made one last check and saw them at the front of the bridge (it's about 30 yards to the right of the end of the fairway), looked back down and hit. I felt bad when I saw the ball heading towards them, but I never figured out why they drove to the bridge only to come back. How much of the blame for the whole thing is on me in this situation?

The X-Forged wedges that I recently got have Dynamic Gold S300 shafts in them, I would assume the previous X-Tour wedges use the same shaft. Titleist wedges that are labeled as "Wedge Flex" actually use Dynamic Gold S200 shafts for instance. As far as the lie angle goes, that just depends. I fit to 3 degrees upright on my irons, but play standard lie on my wedges. My wedges are an inch long while my irons are 3/4" long. I went through a separate fitting for my wedges and for whatever reason, standard lie is better for the wedges while 3 degrees upright is right for my irons.

First off, yeah, you are a whiner. Seriously. What do you want? To call Callaway on the phone and have them immediately airlift a new driver to you? Second off, when most companies talk about "turnaround time" they are talking in terms of "days in house" which sounds about right. They get the club, takes them 4-6 business days before they send out a replacement. I work at a golf store and almost every club that is ever sent back is right around the two week timeframe to get it back. Factor in shipping a couple days there, shipping a couple days back, weekends, and the typical turnaround time, two weeks. You were saying in another post how you didn't miss your driver because you were bombing your 3 wood off the tee. Are you just spoiled and immature or what?

By the time I get my bag situated (getting some new clubs soon) my bag will look something like this: Cleveland Hibore XL 10.5 w/ Graphite Design YS-6+ (45.5") Ping G10 15.5 w/ Ping TFC129F Ping G10 21 w/ Ping TFC129H Ping G10 24 w/ Ping TFC129H Srixon I-701 5-PW w/ TT Dynamic Gold (+3/4", 3 degrees up) Titleist Vokey 50/08 Oil Can (36.5") Titleist Vokey 54/10 Oil Can Spin Milled (36.5") Titleist Vokey 58/08 Oil Can Spin Milled (36.5") Yes! Marilyn (33", 2 degrees flat, loft strengthened half a degree) Switching out the 4 wood, 20 degree, and 23 degree hybrids for the G10s. I need to find some time to get fitted for the G10s just to make sure on my specs though. My old irons were stronger than the Srixons so my distance gaps weren't quite right when I played on Monday. The Srixons are definitely some of the best feeling irons I've ever hit (I work at a golf store, I've hit a lot of different clubs). Going to try playing the Z-URS in most of my rounds, but I have quite a few other balls that were given to me that I'll play also.

I have a lot of different grips on my clubs. Srixon Lamkin Crosslines (ribbed) on my irons Titleist Golf Pride Tour Velvet Full Cords (round) on my wedges Snake Eyes Dual Traction (round) on the woods and hybrids. The ribbed grips on the irons feel a little weird, but I was hitting them extremely well the first time out so I'm not going to mess with them just yet.

I would have to agree with the other posts that it is mainly going to depend on your intended use. If you expect that you will be hitting mostly full shots with your PW, then I would go with the MP-57, but if you think you would be using it more around the green and shorter shots, the MP-T might be a better way to go. Personally, I carry 3 wedges other than my PW, and I use my gap wedge and my 58 degree the most around the greens. I can't think of any shot I have faced when a 47 degree wedge would be needed and my gap wedge couldn't do the job. I do, however, find myself hitting at least a couple full length PW shots a round, so the PW from my set works perfectly. You can't really go wrong with either choice, but I think it is primarily dependent on how you intend to use that particular slot. Since it looks like you are going to be carrying 51 and 56 degree wedges. It really comes down to your intended use and preferences. I used to have a set of irons that were up through gap wedge, but I felt like a lost a lot of feel around the greens. Since I switched out my irons and wedges for a set of three new vokeys and I find that most shots within 50 yards I'm using either my 50 degree (mainly chips and some pitches when I want more roll) or 58 (shorter chips without much roll, and flops). Again, you can't really go wrong with either choice, but I think the MP-T would be more versatile around the greens, while the MP-57 would be easier for those full length shots.

6'3, 33", 2 degrees flat (makes it 70 degrees I believe), and 0.5 degree lower loft (2 degree loft). I'm a little strange, yes, I know.

Tough call on those. My relatives told me to get some new wedges as my college graduation present (only a month left) to go along with the new irons I managed to save up for. I hit the Cleveland CG12, Taylormade Z TP, Mizuno MP-R, Mizuno MP-T, Vokey 200, Vokey Spin Milled, Nike SV, Ping Tour W, Callaway X-Forged, and Callaway X-Tour. The Mizunos and the Vokeys were close at 1 and 2, with the Taylormade Z TP in a pretty close 3rd. However, I use a 50-54-58 setup and the Z TP starts at 52. That knocked it out of the running. After that it came down purely to aesthetics and feel. Both feel sweet at contact. The eventual winner was a Vokey 200 50/08, with Vokey Spin Milled 54 and 58. Could have easily gone with the Mizunos, but without bending I would have had to get a combination of MP-R and MP-T, and I have enough mental problems already without looking down at a different wedge. I haven't had a chance to hit much with the Vokeys yet, but I did do some chipping and pitching and they feel sweet and the ball reacts nicely. Honestly they are all great choices. It comes down to personal preference and feel. I don't hit a whole lot of full wedge shots, so losing some distance on those because of the spin milling doesn't seem like it would be a real issue for me personally. The C-Grind sole on the Mizuno is a nice feature, but with the bounce options that the Vokeys provide, I think you can find one that will fit just as easily. Again, it comes down to personal preference, and I was dead set on buying CG12s or Mizunos when I walked in, but walked out with three Vokeys instead. Hit them all and see what looks and feels best. It's the only way. Good luck, and I don't think you can go wrong with either choice really.

I guess you could say I got some new clubs. Relatives sent me some money and told me to buy 3 new wedges, so I got 3 new Vokey wedges (see signature). I also ordered a set of Srixon I-701 irons on Friday. Hopefully they will show up within the next few weeks. I think I'm set on my other clubs for now, but we'll see if anything catches my eye in the future.

Which part of the graphite is more comfortable for you? The lighter weight or the graphite's vibration dampening? If you just want to give graphite a shot, a few options I can think of off the top of my head would be Grafalloy Attacklite and the Grafalloy Prolaunch iron shafts. Since you have a Cleveland CG12 wedge they use a 0.355 taper tip, which limits your options a little. The graphite shafts tend to be in the 65-85 gram range compared to approximately 130 grams for the stock dynamic gold. It comes down to your preference and what will perform best for you. You might also see if you can have a CG12 ordered with Cleveland's stock graphite shaft if you wanted to go that way.

Those AP2s do look very nice. I guess a pro repped by Cobra is just about the same as being repped by Titleist. Owned by the same parent organization anyway. Anyway, awesome gift and sweet irons. I just ordered some new Srixon irons for myself yesterday, waiting is tough. Should definitely hold on to that wife you have. All I got as a gift recently was three new Vokeys since I paid for the new irons. Congrats again and enjoy the new putter when you get it!

Ok, here's the situation I'm in. Tomorrow I'm going to be ordering a new set of irons. Compared to the standard for the brand I am buying, I measure 3/4" over standard and 3 degrees upright. So here's where the issue comes in. I currently play Dynamic Gold shafts at the same length, which makes my current irons come in at about a D8 swingweight. I'm used to this and I love the solid feel. I want to stick with the ball flight, feel, and characteristics of the DG because they fit me really well. The guy who went through my fitting though suggested considering the Dynamic Gold SL so that I could keep most of the DG characteristics and keep the swingweight down a bit considering the additional length. I don't mind the high swingweight of my current irons, so I'm not sure if I should just stick with what I'm comfortable with or if I should get the DG SL instead. Does anyone know of a reason to go with the SL other than a possibly lighter swingweight, which doesn't feel like that big of an issue to me? Thanks in advance for any advice. Excited to order the new irons.

I definitely agree that some people are insane when it comes to their bragging of distances. My farthest drive that I know distance for was 272 (measured by my SkyCaddie). That is pretty typical for me. I usually have one or two drives that top out around 265 a round, the rest I average more like 240-245 (I tend to push drives right). My farthest drives ever were from elevated tees on 430 yard par 4s. To me those don't count because of the elevated tee and because I don't have a good sense of the distance. At the store where I work I had a guy in his 60s with a driver swing speed at 80mph tell me he hits his 3 wood farther than 260. At that point I just walk away... It seems like some people exaggerate their distances by listing their "career best" as their average. I don't see what the problem is with just listing the actual distances. I haven't been playing long and I've played with a guy that can and does hit it 315+. Just absolutely kills the ball, and he's a great player, but I also play with a guy that hits a little shorter than me and still scores well because he is great around the greens and approaches well.

Driver: Cobra Speed Pro S w/ Aldila DVS 70 3 Wood: Mizuno F-60 w/ Aldila DVS 80 Hybrids: Cobra Baffler Pro 20 and 23 degree w/ Aldila VS Proto 80 Irons: Srixon I-701 Tour (5-PW) w/ True Temper Black Gold (Really, really want a set of Srixon irons) Wedges: Mizuno MP-T Black Nickel 51/06 (bent to 50), 56/10 (bent to 54), 60/08 (bent to 58) w/ True Temper Dynamic Gold Putter: Yes Callie Forged

Well, flew back into Denver this afternoon. Spent most of the time around the university obviously. Went to dinner at a place called Fogo de Chao... Awesome food, just glad I wasn't the one footing the bill. Most graduate students live somewhere either around the university or around Rice village for convenience reasons. I'm hoping to find a place close enough that I can just walk or bike to school and only drive when I absolutely have to. After visiting the campus, just an absolutely amazing school. Seriously impressed with the program, but Houston is a huge city and the traffic can be pretty bad. I'm originally from Texas so I'm used to heat, I'm not used to this damn white stuff I see in Colorado that ruins my winter outdoor activities. As graduate students we get paid a pretty nice stipend so I will be able to afford to live pretty reasonably close to campus. Just need to decide which school I'm going to attend now. Both are very impressive academically.

I believe most of the Yes! putters are about 2.5 degrees. When I got fitted for mine they bent it to be 2 degrees for me. Putts great. Most major companies seem to be around 4 degrees though.

Driver: $117+$18 for the V2 Shaft 4 Wood: $30 20* Hybrid: $60 23* Hybrid: $30 Irons: $280+$50 for Dynamic Gold Shafts Wedges: $40 Each Putter: $50 Fitted Bag: $70 Could be a lot worse considering I got the clubs new when they were recent products.

Shot my current best round today. I've been playing for about 10 months, but lost 5 months of that time due to school and winter. Shot a 95, 45 on the front and 50 on the back. I was 6 over through the first 8 but tripled the last, and then had a quad, a triple, and a double on the back 9. Putting really let me down a couple times. The second triple was a bad pin placement, set up on a brutal slope. The quad was on a par three. Hit the right club but pulled it left into the trap, mishit and sent it over the green into the opposite trap, took two to get out, and then three putted. It was pretty ugly. Played with three guys from work, one shot a one over 73 total, the other two didn't shoot too well (I actually beat both of them on the front, which I guess I should count as an accomplishment). One is a 9 and the other is a 12. I need to learn to avoid the blow up holes, I hit a lot of shots really well, but wasted too many strokes on putts and other various stupid shots. Overall I'm ok with the round because I felt like I hit a lot of good shots but I'm a bit frustrated at the same time because I feel like I could have shot a 90 pretty easily. I guess that's golf though right?

I'm flying into Houston on Thursday the 13th and staying a couple days at a place called Hotel ZaZa. Never heard of the place but whatever. I'll be checking out Rice University and their graduate school program. I doubt I'll have any time to get any golf in unfortunately (I hear the weather is supposed to be in the 70s that weekend) but was just curious what good courses were around the area in case some free time comes up or if I choose to continue at Rice.

I broke down and bought a SkyCaddie SG 2.5 today. I received a giftcard from a relative for getting accepted into graduate school to get a Ph.D in Chemical Engineering. Since my bag is pretty much set for clubs the SkyCaddie was about the only thing I really wanted. I ended up getting the last 2.5 that was in stock. I've loaded it up but unfortunately it's supposed to snow tomorrow . Hopefully I'll get to play next week and try it out. Before this I just used course markers and/or asked the guys I was playing with. I'm hoping this will help me because I find myself hitting the wrong club a little too often for my liking.

Guess I am one of the few where the Ping static webfit isn't entirely accurate. I'm 6'3 with a 37" wrist to floor, so the Ping webfit puts me at a half inch over and white dot 3 degrees upright. It also puts me in a stiff flex for the Z-Z65 or a stiff or X flex for the AWT shaft. My most recent fitting has me at a half inch over and standard lie. Flex is kind of up in the air because I seem to be in a strange range. I play Dynamic Gold R300s in my 23 degree hybrid and my 5-9 irons and S300s in my wedges. Driver swing speed for me is around 96-99. It seems like I am kind of in the "high regular/low stiff" range so I have been using regular because they feel better and give me better results usually. Then again, I have very strange preferences for my clubs. I like heavy shafts, high swingweights, it just feels more comfortable for my swing.

hawkeye has it right. Almost all of the hybrids I've seen are hollow, we have a Nickent 4DX that has a top cut out so that you can see how thin the top is but also the hollow nature of the head. Combine the hollow clubhead with a casting process that makes it very brittle, bad combination for bending. That's why forged irons can be bent pretty easily 3-4 degrees and cast irons can break even trying to be bent 1-2 degrees. The older Cleveland CG irons, the ones made of the CMM process are locked very rigidly into place, that's why most people will not try to bend the older CG10 and CG11 wedges. They are very brittle and snap almost instantly when trying to be bent.

After hitting both today during work (it was pretty slow), I can't say I'm a huge fan of the performance of either. I prefer the look of the new ones compared to the old models. The square especially looks a ton better than last year's model, but performance wise, they are pretty standard. Both models sound more like a "normal" driver, the square doesn't have as much of that annoying composite sound. Both are still pretty loud, but not an annoyingly loud sound like before. The matte paint finish looks nice also and the darker grey on the square hides the square shape reasonably well. I was more impressed by the square fairway wood, which I only hit off the deck. Pretty easy to hit, but the face is a bit deep for my preference to hit off the deck. Nice one for hitting off the tee though. Easy to hit straight, but probably not very easy to work. Only had one get sold during the 8 hours I was there. It was the a 9.5 degree SQ 5000 with the stiff V2 shaft in it. Guy who bought it was regularly hitting it out around 300 yards. Overall not bad clubs, but nothing special enough to convince me to buy anything.

Well, I've definitely hit all of these clubs. I'll try to give a quick run down of what I think of all of them. Cobra S9: Current irons. Super easy to hit, high launching (a bit too high for me with the stock Nippon shaft so I switched those out for Dynamic Golds). Urethane insert on top hides the thickness by only having a small line of metal directly on the top (if a thick topline bothers you). Urethane insert in the cavity reduces shock quite a bit, really soft feel, especially for a cast club of that size. Ping G10: Another super easy to hit club. Great service from Ping of course. The standard AWT shaft feels pretty good and a nice concept. A ton of people have been buying these and absolutely love them. Seem to be very similar mold to the Raptures without the titanium face insert. Again launches high and straight with a bit of a muted feel, especially with the Cushin insert in the shaft. Callaway X-20: Oddly enough my least favorite club of the group. A very nice club in its own right, but not for me. The look of the topline and the club head in general doesn't suit me at all. The Uniflex steel shaft gets some mixed reviews as well. I don't know much difference in shafts for irons personally (I play R300 but hit S300 and Project X 6.0 just as well) so the uniflex shaft doesn't mean much to me. Feel is a bit "clunky" to me but also easy to hit. Taylormade R7: Another great club, but not a particular favorite of mine. Nice technology, good distance, good launch, but the feel is a little strange to me. I absolutely love the feel of the R7 TP, but the regular R7s don't seem to have the same soft feel. Shaft is a good choice and fits the club well. Plenty of people love this one as well. The look and topline of this one sets up very nicely. Cobra FP: Smaller version of the S9. Less offset than the S9, slightly smaller head, thinner sole. Topline is a bit thick for me. The heavier Nippon shaft (compared to the shaft in the S9) is a nice addition as well. Same urethane insert in the cavity as the S9 giving a nice soft feel. Slightly harsher feel than the S9, but still easy to hit. Available for a great price right now until the new version is released. Cleveland CG Gold: One of the guys I work with had these for a few months. It took him a little to get used to them from his old irons but he started hitting them very well before getting the club bug and selling them to make room for some new Pings. The polymer insert dampens the harshness and the topline is relatively thick, but they are nice clubs as well. Shafts in these say they are flighted, which is kind of cool. The shorter irons look a little strange at set up to be honest, but I can't really explain why. That's about all I can think of at the moment for these 6. Definitely try them all and get an idea. Don't rule out anything. Good luck.