Bogeysaurus

What specific qualities help in golf? Just off the top of my head, for starters highly precise muscle memory. What is necessary for highly precise muscle memory? Highly functioning neural connection from your brain to your muscles. You do realize every person doesn't have equal muscular control? Highly precise coordination. A world class golfer must coordinate the large muscles of their body as well as the small muscles of their arms. All of this must be synchronized and highly repeatable. You do realize everyone doesn't have equivalent coordination right? And your last sentence really is a gem. What about human evolution would make good golfers selected? Are you kidding? Are you being intentionally obtuse now because you are being defensive as everyone points out the severe flaws in your argument? For starters even if your last sentence made a lick of sense regarding golfers being selected through evolution how would we know if they were or were not? What if Tiger Woods and his family tree does represent the apogee of golfing ability and was for some reason selected. Or what if golfers weren't selected and had they been Tiger would be but a mere mortal compared to the greats. Point, we wouldn't know, that is an absurd and inscrutable question. But your last sentence doesn't make a lick of sense anyway. Football players, basketball players, golfers, theoretical physicists nor polymaths are selected via evolution and natural selection. Genetic qualities that exist within people that might be applicable to being highly successful in those endeavors are selected though.

Exactly... it isn't rocket science understanding that the specific genetics that people are born with are applicable to different human endeavors.

I posted my distances earlier when I first started and they are increasing. I occasionally most be producing good lag and making a better stroke because yesterday I pulled my PW out for my 125 yard from green shot and flew the green bad, 140 yard beauty. Still average probably 120ish but looks like my swing is getting better. Also am noticing that my short irons like my 9 and 8 are starting to close the gap with my 7 and 6. I'm assuming this is normal as your swing improves with the easier clubs and up.

Surely all of you worked hard to grow as tall as you did. Put in the long hours to get the perfect hair color you wanted. And really did your due diligence to ensure you became well endowed . I mean natural talent is a myth so hopefully you did your homework!

Really? Show me the scientific evidence that contradicts talent. I'd love to see the experiments that over and over and over prove that talent is a myth. To the contrary the human genome has been mapped. We know what genes do what. To say genetic "talent" is a myth would be to ignore pretty much everything we know thanks to biologist and geneticist.

I went from having an ugly swing that sometimes got things done to not being able to get the ball off the ground after my first lesson. Two lessons later I was hitting the ball better than ever. Three more lessons and there were ups and downs but after 2 months of lessons and practice I'm way better than before. Granted I was a 35+ hc before and now maybe low 20s. At this point though I think time and practice is what I need coupled with videoing myself and reviewing. I know what I need to do now, just have to get myself to consistently do it. Stick with it, it'll take a few lessons but once you get out of your head it should probably help.

In my small hometown when I was growing up there were dozens of parents with gifted athletic kids that did the exact same thing with their kids in hopes they would be the next greatest, golf, tennis, basketball, football, baseball player. Some from that small town I grew up with played in college, and 1 or 2 had small stints professionally. This is one small town of tens of thousands of towns across the country. We don't hear about the ones they didn't make it, "Hey did you hear about that guy that almost was a great ____________"... There is nothing coincidental at all about Tiger Woods... He just happens to be the one of ten thousand athletes of that time with parents that fostered his abilities that was just slightly more gifted and that is why we know his story.

Yeah, must of his videos aren't actually him swinging.

Maybe I'm missing something... You are suggesting it is impressive, commendable, or inspiring that someone has the "will power" to practice golf 6 hours a day instead of working 8-10 hours a day at a JOB?

I've tried finding video of his "original swing" but no luck, do you remember where it was posted or how to find out? His swing looks decent now, curious what it started out like.

I like that. I think I'll start doing that for my full swing practice! I typically do a game at the chipping/putting area where up and down is par and I play 18 holes like that.

First one was last week during a terrible round. Saved bogey from 50-55 yards with my PW. Bounced once and rolled about a second and then disappeared.

I can mostly replay/remember 9 hole rounds, but I occasionally take a notebook and make note of GIR, fairways and putts.

I recently went through a patch where I was chunking and hitting really fat. The majority of the time when that happens to me it is because I was trying to use all arms without rotating my body. A swing thought that helps me get a proper rotating and weight forward is to focus on the feel and idea of my forward arm leading the club through the swing. For some reason this gets my body rotation in sync for me.

Shot my best ever 44 on 9 holes, no driver or woods. Hit 5 fairways, 4 GIR and over all had a great round striking with my irons. My putting wasn't great though, I missed two easy pars due to poor putting. I was clobbering my 6i off the tee though! That is my longest iron currently, I think I need either a 3i or a hybrid and I can leave the woods/driver at home for good!

My distances (approx): Driver 200-220 Woods 180-200 6i 160 7i 145 8i 135 9 120 PW 105 This isn't very long, maybe even a bit less than average. However, my distances aren't the reason for my 48+ 9 hole scores. The "extra" strokes are almost always because of mishits and inconsistency. Just guessing here because I'm not a low handicapper, but until you approach 10-12 hc consistency is probably the weakest link, not distance.

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Played a round with a co-worker once, we were newly acquainted so not like we are long time buds. It got awkward really fast. On the first couple holes I would be mid-address on nearly every shot and he would be giving me tips about my swing. At hole 3 at the tee box I had taken a practice swing was addressing and he started with the advice again and I couldn't take it anymore and told him that if he wanted to finish the round with me he was going to have to stop telling me how to play. It was about 3 holes before the mood lightened again. I should have known this would have happened, I went to the range with him once prior and he was the same way at the range. His "best" advice for me kept being to put the ball further back in my stance as opposed to middle of my stance, then I wouldn't hit it fat anymore.

I'd like to gain more consistency in my swing so I hit less fat shots. As far as score, I'd like to break 45 on 9 holes.

Has anyone else experienced the following: I recently discovered a couple flaws in my swing that I am working on fixing. The last 3 times to the range the same thing has happened. I start with 1/2 swings and I'm hitting brilliantly. I maybe hit a few 3/4 swings but not really trying to crank on it just get used to the feel of proper swing and impact. After a dozen or so great shots I'll eventually hit a fat shot or slice it. Fairly quickly I'll get back to hitting good shots but maybe only 8 before the next screw up. Each time though eventually the slicing/shanking gets worse and it gets harder to get back to hitting the ball properly. I then struggle to get one or two final good shots to leave the range on a good note. What is the deal! I start off great and the longer I practice the worse it gets... Each time I think AH HA so that is the difference in feel when I hit a good one and bad one so now I know what to do. But by the end every swing feels the same and my muscles feel numb to any small changes. Don't know what to do... just don't know how I am supposed to build consistency or muscle memory if each time I start great and end bad without any sign of progress. Is this just the nature of slow progression of a golf swing? Thanks

Very good progress from over 100 to consistently in the 80s! I'm about a month in myself and would love to see that speed of improvement! Best 9 hole round so far for me with no cheating has been 48. Currently my short game is not too bad, but off the tee and fat iron shots are holding me back. I have to fix my tendency to "scoop". I am practicing/playing about 7-8 hours a week so hopefully a few months down the road I will see some improvements!

I've been keeping a spreadsheet since I started about a month ago: Range/Practice 15.5 hours 55% Backyard 3.5 hours 12.5% Playing 9.0 hours 32% Range/practice includes putting and chipping time as well as full swing practice. Backyard is mostly chipping but some full swing with whiffle balls. And playing thus far is all 9 hole rounds by myself. I thought I was going to be migrating toward more time spent playing vs range until discovering a couple major flaws in my swing recently that I'll have to fix first before spending much time playing. I spend about 7-8 hours a week doing some type of golf. I'm hoping at this clip 2-3 months from now I'll be a bogey golfer:)

I tried to quiet down my back leg. I will try the weight a bit forward and see if I can't improve that further. As far as the hands at impact, I agree they are probably in line with the club face vs the club face lagging the hands. I might still be flipping a bit but it appears better following impact. I have to figure out how to get the club face to trail my hands though. Haven't figured that out yet. Bad weather has prevented any range practice for a few days so I've only been able to do whiffle balls. Will be interesting to see what happens with real balls when the rain stops. It feels a bit better regarding rotation and everything but I still am not sure how to find the feel to get my hands to get ahead of the club face. I suppose that is the next step. Thanks for all the feedback!

Any improvements? Thanks