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Not only is there a penalty for touching the line of putt but also for touching the green to indicate the line of putt, whether on the line or not. 8-2b When the player's ball is on the putting green, the line of putt may be indicated before, but not during, the stroke by the player, his partner or either of their caddies; in doing so the putting green must not be touched.

So that would be your response to a player who asks a legitimate Rules question? How do you expect to run a tournament when the committee picks and chooses which Rules to follow?

Which other Rules do you ignore?

The prefered term is "sandy areas through the green"

There is no Doug Sands listed in PGA members directory, maybe he was referring to the Potato Growers of America school??

@Groucho Valentine, you said this was a tournament; when you say "you let it go" does that mean you just posted the score and returned the card? If the committee was not informed that a second ball was played, the player is DQ. "Before returning his score card, the competitor must report the facts of the situation to the Committee. If he fails to do so, he is disqualified."

@iacas, I edited my post to, hopefully, explain that. As soon as he invoked 3-3 he had to play his provisional; the original was a wrong ball at that point.

When Leal invoked 3-3, the two balls were the dropped ball (with which he never finished the hole) and the provisional. He never played the provisional (his FC did). Since the ball he holed out with was neither of 3-3 balls, it was a wrong ball therefore he had no score for the hole. Pretty straightforward (I think?)

That is fine. Sounds like a lot of loft, though. A 5 or 6 iron might work better 🙂 D4-1/3 4-1/3 Status of a Chipper Q.What Rules apply to "chippers"? A.A "chipper" is an iron club designed primarily for use off the putting green, generally with a loft greater than ten degrees. As most players adopt a "putting stroke" when using a chipper, there can be a tendency to design the club as if it was a putter. To eliminate confusion, the Rules which apply to "chippers" include: The shaft must be attached to the clubhead at the heel (Appendix II, 2c); The grip must be circular in cross-section (Appendix II, 3(i)) and only one grip is permitted (Appendix II, 3(v)); The clubhead must be generally plain in shape (Appendix II, 4a) and have only one striking face (Appendix II, 4d); and The face of the club must conform to specifications with regard to hardness, surface roughness, material and markings in the impact area (Appendix II, 5).

The wife does not agree!

I was at the Atlanta workshop this week - if you scroll to the bottom of the download and go to 'settings' you can select 'expert' mode to get the Interpretations too.

The 2019 definition is 'Nearest point of complete relief' Much better!

Yes, @Rulesman posted the Rule (17-4) earlier in the thread

17-4 ('/' denotes a decision, not a Rule subsection) is applicable. If the ball does not fall into the hole then yes, D16/3 applies

Not holed. See the definition: A ball is "holed" when it is at rest within the circumference of the hole and all of it is below the level of the lip of the hole.