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2 muscle building workouts + cardio. 3 stretch workouts 3 speed training protocols 2 range sessions (at home) 3 times hitting the course. I took 1 month off of everything because of my recent holiday in Europe, felt like a sin. Immediately started again after the trip ended. PD- In Europe I walked 10 to 20 km per day so is not like I rubbed my belly al trip long.
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Back from holiday and to work on my game. I'm quite good in measuring distance inside 15 feet because I take my time before every putt to count the paces. After doing it several times you already know how much paces to the cup you have (always inside 15 feet). Outside that I guestimate the nearest yards multiple by 5. (15 feet / 20 feet / 25 feet) etc. I agree with this, or at least I came to the same conclusion. I think I still have some room from improvement in my long game, but in the 175-250 range I'm leaving myself to many up and down attempts that are hard to convert when my short putting is off. Also I struggle a little bit on long pitch shots while been above average on n-GIR shots.
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Unless a fairway is more than 60/70 yards wide (maybe Nr 1/18 at Saint Andrews, talking about hitting the right side or the left side is pointless. Aim at the middle and your left misses are going to be in the left side and your rigth misses are going to be in the rigth part of the fairway. I don't like neither of the answers of the poll.
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I have a hole in my home course that have a 30 yards wide green with a big bunker short of it. From the ladies tee it's 265 to the middle of the green. I normally hit 5..6 shots and search for the pitch marks on the green and in the bunker to have and average of my carry distance. Also take note of the wind and temperature to be more precise. Also, for irons is a good guess to hit a couple of flush shots and estimate that your average is going to be 5/10/15 yards shorter depending on you consistency. In this case it would be better for strategy to keep the 250 average. If you account for a 225 driver and you hit one 260 it could get you in trouble if the hole have a dogleg or you run out of fairway.
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The other day, playing a tournament that gives points to the international amateur ranking, I stayed after my final round to follow the leaders and compare my stats/game with them. It was a threesome, guys from Canada, Spain and South Africa. My god.. those 20 year old boys hit it really long. On a 0 roll day, after a couple of days of heavy rain, they were driving it in average from 290 to 305.. all carry at sea level and 20°C. My 260 carry was totally useless against this guys. They were literally playing a different course, even a different sport. On a par 4, 480 yards, playing 1 club against the wind, I didn't reach the green after 2 average shots. All of them drive it 310 to the 170 mark and hit a 7 iron to the green. Remember, no roll and against the wind, it was ridiculous. On one hole it was really funny and incredible at the same time. It was a 360 yards par 4 with OB left and dense trees rights. Also you have a couple of bunkers that make the fairway even tighter from 110 to 50 yards of the green. After that the trees and bunkers ends and you have an open right towards the green and also an open to the right of the green were the next tee box is placed. This day the wind was coming from the right and slightly on our backs. 99% of players hit and iron of the tee to leave themselves 130 to the green. The Canadian and the SA guy did exactly that.. but the Spanish guy had something different in his mind. He took out his driver and gave it a go. The ball started right, directly to the trees. In my mind I thought, "he is dead".. is almost always bogey from that trees. Well I was wrong.. the ball flew, and flew and flew over the trees to land and plug a couple of yards before the tee of the next hole. I google it and it was 330 carry, no elevation change. Never in all the years I played that course thought that it could be possible to play the hole that way. In case you are wondering, yes he made birdie from there with a good 15 footer and proceeded to win the championship by a couple of shots. What is most amazing and terrifying is that this were just elite amateur golfers. Imagine how much more ridiculous it could be to compare you game to the bombers from the PGA tour.
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In addition, I don't take in consideration Par 3s for the approach stat because I struggle more with irons and wood of the deck, from the tee is a completly different story so I don't want mix up the numbers and get to a wrong conclusion. Also don't consider shots from the trees, only fairway, rough or bunker. That's why my average of approach shots to the green is around 12.
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50-75 75-100 100-125 125-150 150-175 175-200 200-225 225-250 SG -0.18 -0.18 -0.12 -0.12 -0.12 -0.13 -0.16 -0.11 SG Real -0.01 -0.19 -0.21 -0.06 -0.17 -0.39 -0.34 -0.34 Total Strokes 2.74 2.99 3.07 2.99 3.19 3.54 3.64 3.79 Avg Shots PRound 1.30 1.00 3.20 1.70 2.50 0.90 0.50 0.80 SG is Stroke gained against PGA Tour only on the approach shots. SG Real is the real amount of shots I take from 50 to 250 yards to hole out against the PGA Tour. I don't have chips/putts from each distance. I do have SG putting and around the green. I'm really good around the greens, not that good around 30ish yards (no stats for that, just a guess). Good lag putter but struggle inside 15/10 feet. Green Side Putting -0.5 -1.3 Putt Chip Sand Short Mid Long -0.1 -0.1 -0.3 -1.2 -0.1 0.0 From what you say, I guess on long shots I leave myselft too many 30sh shots and a bunch short putts for par in witch a loose a lot of partial shots. As i match myselft against the pga SG I do record the lie of the ball but I don't make a different category for it. On the 10 rounds of the data gathered (I delete the 11th every time a new round is played) I only took 1 OB from 160 in the rough.
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Me like others gather their own stroke gained (SG) stats to find out the weak points in our game in comparison of our pears or against the PGA tour. I usually record putting (short, middle, long), around the green (putt, chip, sand), off the tee (driver, woods, irons) and approach to green (250-225, 225-200,..., 75-50). In every "approach to green" distance category I average around 0.15 strokes lost per shot against the PGA tour. Pretty consistent average from 50 to 250 yards so I always assumed I didn't needed to focus my training in any specific distance. But... BIG but.. last weekend I took the time to change the way I records the stats, besides the SG stats on my approach shots, I also tracked the real amount of stroke it took for me to hole out from every distance to the green between 250 and 50 yards. I gathered information of the last 10 round (same as the normal SG). The results were totally different. Inside 75 yards I averaged 0 SG (2.75 real strokes to hole out) , between 75 and 175 I was loosing around 0.15 SG on each category and shockingly from 175 to 250 I was losing 0.35 SG on each category. So basically I'm really bad when I have to play shots outside 175 even when the normal SG stats told me everything was OK. Thoughts?
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Always: Every time the ball's owner look out for it and I think that it could be findable. Never: If the other person don't look for his ball. Or don't bother to look for my balls earlier in the round. (yeah... it sounded bad) Fake it: When I know that the ball is gone but the owner still think is inbounds. I tell him that it is gone but I join him in his pain, and of course look for other balls to make it worth. There is no sometimes for me.
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In Argentina we play all year long. More or less clothes. Of course, index goes up on winter and up on summer.
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In average we loose a yard each year after.. 30/40. Maybe it get worse around 80/90. So if you are really seen a loose in distance after a few months is not because of age, it's probably cooler air, less roll because of wet fairways or a swing change that make you swing slower or with worst launch conditions. Is always good to check it with trackman and a pro who knows the numbers well. As a scratch player you would think I don't have much room to improve, but last November I was hitting it in average 260(240 carry), always been a short hitter. Hit the trackman with a Pro, change driver, change my club delivery, change my launching conditions and now I'm averaging 280, despite been a year older (39) and going at it with the exact same effort I did las year.
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What Online Tips Have Actually Worked for You?
p1n9183 replied to Arizona's topic in Instruction and Playing Tips
Is not about your best shots, is about how bad are your bad shots. Instead of working in a swing that make you hit the ball flush and straight from time to time, work on a swing that when you miss, the miss is totally acceptable and in play. Changed from my wild, long, good looking draw to my boring predictable short fade. Less beautiful shots but also less bogeys. I play for score so is a no brainier. -
I play Tournaments with golf Cart once or twice a year. I hate it, the pace of play is totally out of sync. I need those walking minutes to calm down, forget the previous shot and start planning my next shot. With the cart you are over the ball in seconds and you normally have to rush your decision making process to avoid slowing down pace. The result is a lot more not committed shots.
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I think hitting is good for short putting, focusing on face control, and swinging is good for lag putts focusing on speed. I hit inside 15 feet, I swing outside 15 feet. I agree with the fact that center face consistency is not that important unless you are way off center.
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This or maybe 3 to 1 ratio in favor of the wife but always keeping some time to spend with friends. Could be a 3rd option to arrange a couples golf trip? Your wife, your friends, their wifes and you. I love numbers, let's explain it in them. I average 280 off the tee +-20 yards. My dispersion at that distance is 80 yards wide. Pretty normal dispersion for a driver where you miss more sideways than in distance. My dispersion in 2 dimensions is an area of 40*80 = 320y2(yardsSquare). If I have perfect speed then that area turns into a line of 80 yards wide. (80y2 area) If I have perfect line that area turns into a line but now 40 yards width. (40y2 area) Less area means better dispersion = better scores. Is easy to see that you have more room for improvement with your line than your speed. Putting is pretty much the same but left to right misses are a lot less smaller than short to long misses. So you have a lot more room for improvement with speed than with line, that's why having perfect speed is better than perfect line in putting. Same apply to putting VS driving. You have a lot more room for improvement with driver than putter, that's why Driver is more important than putting, despite what you heard on TV.
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30 miles tail wind, downhill, grass hard as rock, elevation over sea and countless of balls to hit that shot. Of course, he is probably the only guy that can achieve that, but to be fair with other contenders the record should only count in tournament conditions, with course and weather conditions in a range that is not that extreme. Similar to the 100 meters sprint. If the wind is over a fixed miles and hour the record is not valid. Nevertheless, amazing achievement..
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The pool really depends on your values. People with the same values as yours ( value: is ok to steal or take unfair advantage when possible) are going to vote ethical because they want to justify their bad behavior and feel better about themselves. People against your values is going to vote unethical because is the right thing to do (and probably are proud of been that way). Of course there are going to be people that is in favor of stealing but don't want to let everyone know, so they are going to vote unethical despite thinking is totally ethical. Of course I voted Ethical! 😄 Hahaha... ruin those mega food Empires!
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In average men are better than woman in golf (or every sport that having a better physic is an advantage) . Is just a fact of biology, is dilutional to think otherwise. But as you said, there are man that think that they can beat an LPGA player just because they are woman. LPGA players are really good golfers in general that can beat 99.9% of man that play golf. Only guys on the PGA or other elite tours can beat them.
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Also a Ping Hoofer lover. Had it when competing 20 years ago, and now that I picked up golf again (7 years ago). I have no issue at all in getting the clubs in or out. Keep your own bag!
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100% speed, and we still practice more line than speed. On every big midAm Tournament I play, all the players are hitting 10 footers (or less) on the putting green before and after the round. Never saw a guy performing a speed drill on them. I normally do a speed drill test on the putting green the practice day, but after that all I do is line practices. I like my pace control, and I suck at keeping it on my line but I still know that it would be more beneficial to me to work more on speed, but..... is SO boring!!
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Club Path/Face to Path Optimal or Acceptable Ranges
p1n9183 replied to Eli17's topic in Instruction and Playing Tips
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Club Path/Face to Path Optimal or Acceptable Ranges
p1n9183 replied to Eli17's topic in Instruction and Playing Tips
You really need to know the numbers if you want to go down that path... You can have a perfect path of +3 degrees and the face aiming +1.5 degrees from the target (fadeToPath of -1.5) for each club in the bag and you will still see totally different ball fligth with each of them. Why? Going for the extreme examples... You are probably hitting down on your wedges by 6°. By the D-Plane laws (an extension of the ball flight rules) you are moving your path to the right by 3° so now your dynamic path is in reality +6° but the face is still only +1.5° (dynamic faceToPath is now -4.5°). As you know the ball is going to launch at around +2° to the target and turn left to miss it to the left (overdraw). (wedges curve less than less lofted clubs but enough to make you miss left if you don't consider the effect of AoA in the dynamic path. So basically every club you hit down on it you are going to miss it in average to the left of the target, just because the dynamic path is more right than you intended. If you manage to hit your woods with 0° AoA then you are going to hit your target as you wanted. But if you hit Up with the driver, lets say +4°, you are moving your dynamic path to the left by 2 degrees. So now your dynamic path is +1° to target and your face is still +1.5° degrees from target (face to path is now +0.5). This is going to be a ball launching +1° of target and moving rigth. (basically a Fade). So with wedges and every club you hit down on it, you are going to hit an overdraw (you need to aim more to the rigth), with 0° AoA you are going to play a perfect draw (you need to aim to the target), and hitting up on it you are going to see a Fade moving away from target (you need to aim left of the target). Conclusion A: there is no perfect number. There are a lot of variables that affect ball flight that changes with every club you pick up. consider that toe and heel shots also affect ball flight. Conclusion B: Having a faceToPath that is 1 or 2 degrees apart is going to make you hit fade and draws depending on your AoA. To hit the ball with the same shape for every club you need to have more degrees between the face and the path than half of the AoA you are hitting each shot. If you hit down on wedges at -6° and up on the driver at +6° then you need to at least have 4 degrees between your face and your path in either direction. -
Most people don't have what it takes to quit an addiction. Phil isn't an average Joe, I hope he succeeds in his quest, or at least be man enough to not drug down with him family and friends. Ahaha ! Odds are 1..2% in his favor. I definitively take that bet!
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What Ball Is Everybody Playing?
p1n9183 replied to djhgolf's topic in Balls, Carts/Bags, Apparel, Gear, Etc.
Callaway Warbird. I like mid-low spin around the greens so I only like to play 2 piece golf balls. The problem with this balls is that they are normally distance balls for slow swing speed players, so the compression is low and with a fast swing speed I loose distance. The Warbirds are the only ones that are 2-piece but with hard compression. The best of both worlds, at least for me. -
Played GI Irons all my life, I got down to scratch with them using also 2 piece balls. I'm still playing 2 piece balls but upgraded to Callaway Apex Pro 21' irons. To be fair the feel of a center strike is of course an amazing one, I'm no longer afraid of random flyers but now I'm hugely penalized for off center hits. When a water hazard is in front of the green knowing that a miss hit is probably going in is not a good feeling. Overall I'm happy with the change but as a scratch player. I wouldn't recommend it to a 10/20 handicap unless all he cares about is feeling from time to time a flush shot.