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I might consider it. I'd love to see some reviews first, but then I guess you don't get the early bird. -
Oh, he said along the fairway so I guess I thought that's where they were.
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That would be really annoying if the course didn't define them as GUR or NPZ. Otherwise you could split the fairway and be screwed by a distance marker, on any hole? Extremely lame.
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The only time I would argue it may not be stealing is an end-of-the-day twilight scenario. At my regular course you can only book 9 after a certain time in the afternoon but during the summer you can absolutely squeeze in 18. They don’t call it twilight specifically but that’s what it is. Sounds like that isn’t the case here, though.
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Wow, I thought the ending was pretty exciting. I'm not going to debate someone else's feelings but I would definitely disagree with those saying it wasn't. Phil was obviously playing well but he was by no means "automatic" and there were plenty of ways there could've been a two stroke swing in those last two holes.
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Are they trying to get people to WANT to play the course with that video? It kind of gives me a sense of dread...
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When I belonged to a private club for a few years it was included. Now that I’m not, it seems to be $50 everywhere I’ve checked, whether you get it online or in person. It also seems that all of the online options correspond to a physical club/course here in NH. I kept it for a couple years after leaving the private club but let it lapse the past few years. If there are other benefits, beyond a publication they send out, I’m not aware of them. I’m trying to decide if I want to re-establish a HC. I’ve gotta do some reading on the changes with the WHS if I do.
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I don't doubt that, certainly not trying to knock S&T or the site, I just remember it being brought up and recommended a lot is all. 🙂 Perhaps it was a blip in the overall history of the site, but it was prevalent when I joined. Makes sense. I remember it was often said that many (all?) good golfers used pieces of S&T without have a specifically "S&T swing." 5SK made more sense to me, in that rather than calling something good golfers are already doing part of a new specific swing theory, it identifies those things and explains why they're important.
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I’ve been mostly away from the site for a few years since I really got into fishing. This year I want to play more golf and get back into it a bit. When I first joined the site, it was (seemingly) all about Stack and Tilt. That fell out of favor, as I recall. Later, there were the 5 Simple Keys. I remember reading a lot about weight forward, feet flared out, deep hands, and probably a lot more I’m not thinking of right now. I’m curious - has much changed in the past few years? Have there been any interesting discoveries or changes to what was thought to be best practice? Concepts that have been abandoned over time? I’m not looking for advice or swing thoughts, I was really just wondering what the general current thinking is. Thanks!
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Hell no. First, I’m not a very good golfer, and second, one injury from so many attempts and you’re done for.
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Yeah I’m just thinking about scenarios where you’re playing as a foursome on a time limit, you’re going to be moving it quite a bit and that will eat into your time. Plus cable wear and tear from constant moving, potential tripping hazard, etc. if I’m paying decent money to play I wouldn’t want to have to deal with that.
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What happens when you get a lefty in the group? They have to move the unit over for every shot?
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I understand that but then why didn't they include it in the clarification? Omitting it there seems like they removed "club behind the ball" as a criteria.
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You're right, I somehow missed that last paragraph of the change regarding backing out - my bad. I agree, that is too subjective. Where "beginning to take a stance" is now defined as having at least one foot in place, how could you? I meant placing the club behind the ball, yes. How can you have "beginning to take your stance" explicitly defined as one foot being in place for the actual stroke and then also have other examples? If that's true, then you're right, they really haven't solved anything.But I took this at face value, that you are NOT beginning to take your stance until one foot is in place.
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In terms of how they have changed and clarified the rule, yes. Do I think the changes are the best they could have done? No. I think grounding the club behind the ball should also count as starting to take your stance, as it did originally and as I stated earlier. Any practice swing where the club head is just outside of the ball is going to put your feet practically just as close as if you were to only move them an inch or two, and that practice swing is now allowed to take place with your caddie in line behind you. Does it allow players to skirt the intent of the rule more easily? Perhaps. Again, I don't think this change is ideal. Just better than it was. It might be trivial and stupid, but if you've moved both feet (and I would add the club head if it were up to me), then you've reset.
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No, he wasn't in his stance, according to this definition. He moved. It's undoubtedly more defined than it was, is my point. Not sure if you would remember but I have nit-picked over "what-if" scenarios on other rules with you in the past and as I recall (can't find my activity going back that far) your response was basically that they simply can't address every single scenario one can imagine when creating the rules. Well I really can't understand that, care to explain?
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It seems to me that it's at least less ambiguous than it was before. Before it was basically, "we can't really define when you are starting to take your stance, but we'll know it if we see it!" Yes, they provided two examples but as far as we knew they were just that, examples, and any official could've decided something else was "beginning to take a stance," as we indeed saw happen. I do tend to agree, even more clarity would be better, but I don't see this as worse. There was always some degree of interpretation/judgement as a factor in this rule. Question - wouldn't all of your backing out concerns still have applied on the green even if they didn't change that part of the rule so it was allowed everywhere?
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You can adjust the height of the handle. Just push the handle down slightly to lift the front wheel and sharp turns are pretty easy, or at least easy enough I’ve never thought about it or wished it were easier.
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I could imagine tour players pushing back on this whole thing and saying, hey, I thought we’re supposed to make an effort to speed things up and this is making our shot process take longer. Not saying that’s right but I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s brought up.
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Perhaps it has more to do with the fact that the green is a much more confined area with other players more likely to be in close proximity. The caddy may have fewer reasonable places to stand and might accidentally find themselves out of position more easily. Who knows.
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