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My ball speed is hovering around 150, and I'm really wanting to improve on this, as I'm spot on accurate with my driver, my average drive is around 250 straight up flat land. What are some lifts I can do to increase swing speed?
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Increase your core body strength and flexibility. Good flexibility and additional strength in both your abs and your back will do wonders for your swing.

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1) better technique in your golf swing
2) longer shaft
3) lighter shafts


I have increased my distance and accuracy with better technique.
I started doing the following:

1) keep my left arm straight (right handed golfer)
2) tilt my rear shoulder or right shoulder
3) start slow and easy and coil with the shoulder, hips and straight arm
4) start the downswing with my hips and extend my arms
5) naturally break my wrist automatically and this will generate more speed

my drivers go farther and more accurate and it seems effortless. My iron approach are more accurate also.

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Try increasing your swing tempo. I just picked up the book "Tour Tempo". It's very interesting how fast the pro's actually swing and their 3/1 timing compared to us amateurs.

If you're not swinging with a fast enough tempo, you won't load the shaft, and you won't generate the clubhead speed as easily. Just look at long drivers... their tempos are insanely fast.
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Try increasing your swing tempo. I just picked up the book "Tour Tempo". It's very interesting how fast the pro's actually swing and their 3/1 timing compared to us amateurs.

tempo as in how fast you take the club back?

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tempo as in how fast you take the club back?

I think he means tempo as in take back+transition+downswing+follow through.

As far as lifting... I work abs, obliques (for the coil/hip rotation), and triceps (downswing control - a la Camillo Villegas) more than the rest. I also do yoga with my wife. The mental preparation for a yoga move is so similar to mental preparation for a golf swing. I kid you not.

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Wrist rolls, increase your wrist and forearm strength. Take a 10 to 20# weight, 6 foot of rope and a 18" piece of 1" PVC pipe. Hold your arms straight out from your chest, roll the weight up and roll it down. At least 3 times a day.
Core muscle work outs are great for all sports as well.

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Wrist rolls, increase your wrist and forearm strength. Take a 10 to 20# weight, 6 foot of rope and a 18" piece of 1" PVC pipe. Hold your arms straight out from your chest, roll the weight up and roll it down. At least 3 times a day.

Wrist rolls? Really? I'd like to see a reputable source that shows the impact of forearm strength in club head speed.. In my opinion, forearm strength has nothing to do with swing speed.

"A typical way people try to hit a ball harder is to snap their wrists at the bottom of their swing. Although this may feel like you are getting more power out of your swing, this action actually slows the club head down, according to Theodore Jorensen, a golf expert who has published works on the physics of golf. " http://ffden-2.phys.uaf.edu/211_fall...tts/swing.html
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Increasing overall strength and flexibility will eventually add more power to your swing.

However, IMHO , if you want to swing faster, then the most efficient way to get there is to strengthen those particular muscles.

How do you do that? Pick up a Power Swing Fan and/or a weighted club. I put these 2 next to my couch in the living room with the tv and have no trouble finding time to swing them 30+ times per day. I don't have any set workout plan with them, just swing them when I feel like it. Which is usually often :)

I work on stretching while swinging the weighted club as well, i'll restrict my backswing by flaring my right foward to make it harder to turn , which stretches things out. Same on the downswing.

The first winter I did this I added 10 mph of club head speed.

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There are very telling positions for most long hitters. Refer to the post above by Jonnygolf about physics and Tiger: He said --

"A typical way people try to hit a ball harder is to snap their wrists at the bottom of their swing. Although this may feel like you are getting more power out of your swing, this action actually slows the club head down, according to Theodore Jorensen, a golf expert who has published works on the physics of golf. "
http://ffden-2.phys.uaf.edu/211_fall...tts/swing.html

I agree with this.

Of course there are variations and exceptions, but there are general tendencies of long hitters.

Notice at the top of Tiger's backswing, his left side makes almost a straight line leaning to his right side, and that his sternum is over his right knee, with a reverse K shape on his right side (and his hips are restricted or not turned as much as shorter hitters -- he has a lot of difference between shoulder rotation and hip rotation, otherwise called coil) -- this is the most common loaded position and you cannot get there unless the right leg remains braced and flexed with the weight still on the inside of the right foot. From there, his torso leads the downswing from the ground up. This is the same stuff you see in someone like Anthony Kim, even with his short backswing. Long hitters want to drive their weight into the ground to allow a fast turn through the ball. The top half of the player is a secondary power source.

The shoulders and arms respond in sequence. The release is a perfectly natural finish with weight on the left leg and right shoulder and right hip ahead of the left ones. The only wrist action is the same as if one had a fishing pole in the left hand and cast the pole overhand to throw the lure into the water -- it is like an up and down motion of the left hand with the right hand responding naturally. You do not try to cause this wrist action, it happens due to the swing -- you allow the club to release and the wrist to relax down and through the shot. Trying to do something else only slows you down through impact and reroutes the club. One could argue this point but as an old physics professor myself, I analyzed lots of data and tried lots of ways to try to speed up the club head -- nothing I could find was as effective as the normal, coordinated swing in which the sequence was lower body triggering the core of legs and torso, working upward to the shoulders and arms with the turning motion slinging the club through the shot. Yes, strong forearms help... but only because they can support a stronger body motion and the keep the club in position through out the swing. Use your big muscles to swing as hard as possible but still stay in balance. Strength helps people stay in balance. Hitting a long way is a big, fast muscle motion, not a quick hands activity.

I claim no special authority on this but after studying swing speed for years, if there is something new or different going on, I would love to know about it. Scientists, even retired ones, love to find out new things. It would not be the first time I've had discussions with club makers or other swing thinkers about the mechanics of swing speed.

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My ball speed is hovering around 150, and I'm really wanting to improve on this, as I'm spot on accurate with my driver, my average drive is around 250 straight up flat land.

You my friend are wise beyond your years (even though I don't know how old you are!) Had you not added that last lil statement to you post you would have got a whole bunch of "load your wrists, or snap your wrist stuff" which are all things that are a result of a powerful swing that you for the most part can not consciencely make happen. A lot of times people are thinking in reverse and looking at the end product which a fluid swing instead of starting from the foundation that builds a solid swing which is absolutely fitness and flexibility. The object is to relieve youself of all things that are impeding your swing (flexibility limiting your range of motion or you simply don't provide enough force because your muscles are weak) and then the final result is a nice fluid repeatable swing. If you filmed your swing before you implemented a fitness and flexibility program and then after 3 or 4 months you will notice that you will get yourself into some of those same power positions that pros do natuarally without really having to think of them because you simply don't have time to think about one paricular thing during a swing because it happens too fast. Now, your question was how to train. Without going into major detail I would say start circuit training to create more force and then be able to support it, ( light weight high repetitition because it builds stength and endurance without becoming bulky which impedes flexibilty) a serious stretching routine such as yoga or pilates ( If you think it is for girls you will be screaming bloody murder at the end of the class I promise and you will be drenched in sweat!) because you have to increase your range of motion to allow more time to create the new force you are creating from your lifting. Next is to implement some swing training. THE ONLY WAY TO GET FAST IS TO TRAIN FASTER! Alot of people on here talk about swinging weighted clubs which will increase your rotational strength and endurance but will not make you faster because simply the club is heavier and can't be swung faster than your normal club. Even if the club feels light in your hands you are still swingin it the same speed. There is still use for that weighted club though. If you are a righty you need to swing that weighted club left handed to offset the muscle asymmetry that you have created from playing a one sided sport. Eventually you will gain some much needed coordination and strength in your non dominate side which will do wonders for your swing natural swing because your body will be in better balance between your right and left side. With your dominate side you need to swing a driver shaft with just a grip on it. Doing this is teaching your golf specific muscles to fire faster than they previously were and that is how you gain speed. If you can make a shaft with no clubhead on it "whoosh" at the bottom of your swing you are moving it pretty quickly. I am a Exercise Science major and have done plenty of studying on this and I practice what I preach for sure. I also play golf both right and left handed and as of two days ago I have broken 80 both righty and lefty. You are on you way because the only way to maximize yourself in any sport you must remove as many things as you can that impede your progress and the number one thing is to improve your fitness level to your personal maximum. I don't hope this helps, I know it will if you do it.

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You my friend are wise beyond your years (even though I don't know how old you are!) Had you not added that last lil statement to you post you would have got a whole bunch of "load your wrists, or snap your wrist stuff" which are all things that are a result of a powerful swing that you for the most part can not consciencely make happen. A lot of times people are thinking in reverse and looking at the end product which a fluid swing instead of starting from the foundation that builds a solid swing which is absolutely fitness and flexibility. The object is to relieve youself of all things that are impeding your swing (flexibility limiting your range of motion or you simply don't provide enough force because your muscles are weak) and then the final result is a nice fluid repeatable swing. If you filmed your swing before you implemented a fitness and flexibility program and then after 3 or 4 months you will notice that you will get yourself into some of those same power positions that pros do natuarally without really having to think of them because you simply don't have time to think about one paricular thing during a swing because it happens too fast. Now, your question was how to train. Without going into major detail I would say start circuit training to create more force and then be able to support it, ( light weight high repetitition because it builds stength and endurance without becoming bulky which impedes flexibilty) a serious stretching routine such as yoga or pilates ( If you think it is for girls you will be screaming bloody murder at the end of the class I promise and you will be drenched in sweat!) because you have to increase your range of motion to allow more time to create the new force you are creating from your lifting. Next is to implement some swing training. THE ONLY WAY TO GET FAST IS TO TRAIN FASTER! Alot of people on here talk about swinging weighted clubs which will increase your rotational strength and endurance but will not make you faster because simply the club is heavier and can't be swung faster than your normal club. Even if the club feels light in your hands you are still swingin it the same speed. There is still use for that weighted club though. If you are a righty you need to swing that weighted club left handed to offset the muscle asymmetry that you have created from playing a one sided sport. Eventually you will gain some much needed coordination and strength in your non dominate side which will do wonders for your swing natural swing because your body will be in better balance between your right and left side. With your dominate side you need to swing a driver shaft with just a grip on it. Doing this is teaching your golf specific muscles to fire faster than they previously were and that is how you gain speed. If you can make a shaft with no clubhead on it "whoosh" at the bottom of your swing you are moving it pretty quickly. I am a Exercise Science major and have done plenty of studying on this and I practice what I preach for sure. I also play golf both right and left handed and as of two days ago I have broken 80 both righty and lefty. You are on you way because the only way to maximize yourself in any sport you must remove as many things as you can that impede your progress and the number one thing is to improve your fitness level to your personal maximum. I don't hope this helps, I know it will if you do it.

Swinging left handed with something heavy seems like it would help, as the muscles that are dominant in the left handed golf swing probably aren't getting worked out as much because of golfing, but when I work out I obviously do left as much as right. Good advice, I'm gonna check into a weighted left handed club.

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Very good point about swinging left handed. I started left handed, switched to right. But years of playing right handed started to show up with a tender back. A physical trainer got me to do lots of core body workouts and stretching, including swinging left handed against resistance, and like magic, the sore back (that would come and go) has pretty much gone away (knock on wood.) Working out and swinging left handed is a great way to balance your core strength and flexibility. Good advice from you guys -- I agree with you (just wish I had started a regular program of working out much sooner.)

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Not to disagree with any of the points made here, most of them are very accurate in my opinion..........

However, you might want to invest in lessons from a really good teacher that can record you on a high speed camera and fix little nuances in your swing.

One example would be to make your back swing as extended as possible.

Another example would be limiting waist turn during your back swing to increase coil resistance.

Another example, would to be delay the forward motion of the club at the top of your back swing. Force that club to chase your body and hands and it will be flying when it reaches the ball.

The whole idea is to narrow the angle between your left forearm and the shaft on your downswing and hold that narrow angle as long as possible before your wrists snap it away at impact.

The vast majority of people will not get a pause at the top of their swing which will not create nor sustain the type of lag necessary to get great club head speed.



I personally worry more about fundamentals than strength, but then again I'm 6'5 and 295 too :)

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Improve your strength, flexibility and swing technique.



and do wrist roll, as jeffhale08 said ealier

Also try to improve swing technique. Good Luck !

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I would work on clubhead lag. Thats where a lot of power comes from.

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