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Which iron shaft fit me? DG-S300, Project X 5.5, or 6.0

post #1 of 16
2/22/09 at 6:03pm
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Hi all,

Over winter break from golf, I haven't gone to practice ranges as much as I wanted, but few times. I found that my iron shaft seems heavy, stiff, and importantly couldn't feel the iron head (Currently using Rifle FCM 6.0). I know its winter (here in VA around 30s for last 2-3 months) but Feeling this way is more significant than other winters.

So... I went to Golf Galaxy where has launch monitor (Ball Launch Monitor Fitting by Maltby) and took good swings at more than 50 balls. Since they had only 1 type of shaft for the club that I was looking for, I didn't have any choice except DG-S300.

My Swing tempo became 'Smooth', almost as much as Big Easy. (was more like Nick Price). Avg. 6 iron swing speed read 86 mph and distance was around 175 yards.

What would be the right choice for my irons among DG-S300, Project X 5.5, or 6.0? with the above profile?
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post #2 of 16
2/22/09 at 6:07pm

Re: Which iron shaft fit me? DG-S300, Project X 5.5, or 6.0

Well if you felt that the DGS300 was a little heavy, I would definitely suggest taking a look at Project X considering that they are roughly five to ten grams lighter than DG in comparable flex.

As far as the 5.5 v 6.0 debate, the 5.5 is probably going to feel the closest in flex to S300. And based on the fact that you have a fairly smooth tempo, I would definitely give the 5.5 a try.
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post #3 of 16
2/22/09 at 6:38pm

Re: Which iron shaft fit me? DG-S300, Project X 5.5, or 6.0

Maybe try the DG SL S300. Why not try something from nippon, kbs etc. We don't know enough about your swing, ball flight, spin rate etc to make shaft suggestions. I was recently fit for some Nike VR split cavities. The stock shaft is the DG s300 but I launched that too low with too much spin so I ended up with the DG high launch shaft, this gave me more carry and a flatter flight. (btw my 6 iron ss was mid 80's with a moderate tempo)
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post #4 of 16
2/22/09 at 7:58pm

Re: Which iron shaft fit me? DG-S300, Project X 5.5, or 6.0

Go to a clubfitter that has a launch monitor. It's the only way to find the perfect shaft.
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post #5 of 16
2/22/09 at 11:41pm

Re: Which iron shaft fit me? DG-S300, Project X 5.5, or 6.0

Originally Posted by Power_fade View Post
Go to a clubfitter that has a launch monitor. It's the only way to find the perfect shaft.

agreed and i believe dg s300 would be like rifle 5.8 so smoother would prolly need a 5.5
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post #6 of 16
2/23/09 at 1:09am

Re: Which iron shaft fit me? DG-S300, Project X 5.5, or 6.0

Just my $.02. From my latest fitting, those numbers would suggest that you stay away from PX 6.0. They will just be too stiff.

FWIW, on the Frequency Meter, the 6.0 in a 5 iron measured at 331. That's slightly stiffer than an X-Stiff.

If you're looking for a different shaft, IMHO, take a look at the Tour Concept shafts. Their S3 flex plays at a number that is the equivalent of a PX 5.5 but gives you a higher ball flight in the long irons.
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post #7 of 16
2/23/09 at 1:21pm

Re: Which iron shaft fit me? DG-S300, Project X 5.5, or 6.0

Originally Posted by Crafty View Post
Well if you felt that the DGS300 was a little heavy, I would definitely suggest taking a look at Project X considering that they are roughly five to ten grams lighter than DG in comparable flex.

As far as the 5.5 v 6.0 debate, the 5.5 is probably going to feel the closest in flex to S300. And based on the fact that you have a fairly smooth tempo, I would definitely give the 5.5 a try.



Dittos...well said. Perhaps reshaft the 6 iron or find a 6 iron demo in your club and test it on the range for actual feel and ball flight. I would only reshaft your whole set once you are absolutely convinced. Otherwise, it is too expensive of an experiment...
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post #8 of 16
2/16/10 at 3:53pm

Re: Which iron shaft fit me? DG-S300, Project X 5.5, or 6.0

Originally Posted by PiustheDrGolf View Post
Hi all,

Over winter break from golf, I haven't gone to practice ranges as much as I wanted, but few times. I found that my iron shaft seems heavy, stiff, and importantly couldn't feel the iron head (Currently using Rifle FCM 6.0). I know its winter (here in VA around 30s for last 2-3 months) but Feeling this way is more significant than other winters.

So... I went to Golf Galaxy where has launch monitor (Ball Launch Monitor Fitting by Maltby) and took good swings at more than 50 balls. Since they had only 1 type of shaft for the club that I was looking for, I didn't have any choice except DG-S300.

My Swing tempo became 'Smooth', almost as much as Big Easy. (was more like Nick Price). Avg. 6 iron swing speed read 86 mph and distance was around 175 yards.

What would be the right choice for my irons among DG-S300, Project X 5.5, or 6.0? with the above profile?
I am in a similar position. Yesterday, I just ordered the Mizuno MP-58s and the shop used the Mizuno Shaft Optimizer. I have similar metrics for swing speed (88 mph 6I, moderate tempo and 175 or so distance). For the 88 mph swing speed, the optimizer suggested the 5.5; holding all metrics the same and increasing my swing spped to 90 mph it suggested the 6.0.

The sales guy and the pro (I take lessons at the same place) all suggested the 6.0, that I'd grow into it. The club maker thought it better to err on the conservative side and go with the 5.5. I felt the 5.5 was easier, more comfortable to hit. However, the set is my first clubs that aren't game improvement clubs so I am buying them to grow into anyway. I opted to trust the pro and odered the 6.0. In the long run, it will probably be better. The difference between 5.5 and 6.0 is unlikley to be a night and day difference. I hope!
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post #9 of 16
2/16/10 at 5:24pm

Re: Which iron shaft fit me? DG-S300, Project X 5.5, or 6.0

As far as the PX go, there isnt much noticable difference between the 5.5 and the 6. Youd have to go down to a 5 to notice a difference. The DG's will produce (generally) a flatter ball flight. Its up to you to make the decison of of how you want the ball to fly.
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post #10 of 16
2/16/10 at 9:17pm

Re: Which iron shaft fit me? DG-S300, Project X 5.5, or 6.0

My experience is that the 5.5's play a tad stiffer than the DG S300. The PX is lighter as someone else has mentioned, I am a low ball hitter with DG S300's in my old set, so the new ones got the PX 5.5's to much snow and too cold to go to the range but I hit them before I ordered so they will be fine. I could have gone 6.0's but they say the 6.0's are close to the X100's. Maybe look into the S200's have those in my 695's and they are decent.
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post #11 of 16
2/16/10 at 11:27pm

Re: Which iron shaft fit me? DG-S300, Project X 5.5, or 6.0

Originally Posted by Crafty View Post
Well if you felt that the DGS300 was a little heavy, I would definitely suggest taking a look at Project X considering that they are roughly five to ten grams lighter than DG in comparable flex.

As far as the 5.5 v 6.0 debate, the 5.5 is probably going to feel the closest in flex to S300. And based on the fact that you have a fairly smooth tempo, I would definitely give the 5.5 a try.
I think S300 is in between two, in an order of 5.5, S300, 6.0, if S300 is heavy, try 5.5 or even 5.0.
I have insisted on 6.0 (maybe ego thing), then learned that 5.5 works better for me, especially if you have a smooth swing tempo, I would stay with 5.5 or 5.
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post #12 of 16
2/17/10 at 12:24am

Re: Which iron shaft fit me? DG-S300, Project X 5.5, or 6.0

Frequency tests put the 5.5's stiffer than the S300 but the S300's feel stiffer because they are heavier.

DGS300 = 5.8FCM
DGX100 = 6.8FCM
PX5.5 = 6.0FCM
PX6.0 = 6.5FCM

PX hits a little higher but with less spin compared to DG due to stiffer tip design, general concensus is that the PX feel harsher but fly longer ( higher flatter ball flight with slightly longer hang time than DG ), Most Pros still like DG due to higher spin for more agressive shot on attacking the pin.
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post #13 of 16
2/17/10 at 11:39am

Re: Which iron shaft fit me? DG-S300, Project X 5.5, or 6.0

i play the DGS300 in my AP2s and my swing speed with the driver in the low 100s. i was originally custom fit for the PX 5.5 but they flew too high so i decided to go with those. i haven't hit the PX 6.0
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post #14 of 16
2/18/10 at 10:28am

Re: Which iron shaft fit me? DG-S300, Project X 5.5, or 6.0

If you like a "lively" shaft the PX 5.5 would probably work well. If you like a smoother shaft Rifle shafts are very smooth, as you know. IMO the KBS shafts feel a lot like rifle shafts. You could also soft step 6.0 rifle shafts. DG's are also good, not as smooth as Rifle or KBS IMO and also IMO they need to be spined b/c there spines are all over the place; from subtle to very pronounced.
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post #15 of 16
2/18/10 at 10:59am

Re: Which iron shaft fit me? DG-S300, Project X 5.5, or 6.0

You just need to find whatever feels right. It's like choosing a woman, one may be really pretty, one may be really nice, but in the end, you might fall for the nerdy looking friend of the pretty girl (god knows I would!).

I've always felt OK playing softer shafts than I should in my irons and wedges. For the most part, I'm an X shaft fit, but I play a Stiff iron shaft, the True Temper GS-95, which is very light. The feel is quite different from other professional irons, because they are so light, they feel quite a bit stiffer than they are. I can't quite explain it, but they just feel good. It feels almost like a PX weight with a DG feel. I like the fact that they are a little on the soft side, which allows a really nice feel at impact, but at the same time, I feel in control of them, because there's no whippy feel when you waggle them.

You should do the same, just get a feel for all the shafts, and find the one that fits you. Other people's opinions are subjective, and so is yours, so you might as well go with the subjective opinion that actually matters.
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post #16 of 16
2/18/10 at 3:43pm

Re: Which iron shaft fit me? DG-S300, Project X 5.5, or 6.0

I wish there was a project X 5.75

(I have a set with 5.5 and a set w/ 6.0) I play the 5.5s mostly.
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