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Here's the swing sequence (from Analyzr) of a pretty good golfer. He took second place individually at the conference championships a few weeks ago.

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Here's a larger look at A3 and A4 from DL:

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Now, if the title of the post didn't totally give it away, a lot of golfers here would be able to spot the flaw here in a heartbeat: the right elbow migrates well around the body and gets a bit trapped on the downswing, resulting in a baby flip, not the best clubface or path control, and some more inconsistent shots than this player otherwise deserves.

I adjusted setup a bit, yes:

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From there, we got to work using The Tube.

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The Tube (patent pending, trademark pending :-D) is not a fix-all for this problem, but it will help this golfer TURN more as he can't make anything like a normal backswing (length) without turning more. Turning more reduces the need to pull the arms around himself, and also moves his shirt seam out of the way.

As a by product, without even talking or working specifically on the downswing…

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iacas

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If anyone wanted to see the video…

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mvmac

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Good stuff. Hope to see The Tube out there soon.

Any feels in particular that clicked with him?

MrFlipper

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Not a right elbow question, but watching the video driver swing I had to ask you some questions. Given that this guy is, I'm sure, better than I ever was and I'm sure no pro or teacher or anything.

But what his head does (and the rest of the swing for that matter) after impact seems really off to me. Are you okay with that, the considerable head movement, the exaggerated lean? What happens after impact is still important, right? What if he loses timing a little, couldn't the head movement start earlier in his swing and mess things up?  Or do you figure it's his eccentricity and ok for him but not generally others?

Thanks.

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iacas

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I think that if you look at his body well after impact but not all the way to the end, you would probably agree that it looks pretty normal. So in this case what is happening is happening so far after impact I don't care too much. Maybe down the road but there are many more pressing issues. #prioritization

14ledo81

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Yep. I noticed it.

It is my main issue.  I have made strides with it (thanks to @mvmac), but it definitely wants to creep back in.

MrFlipper

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  On 10/28/2015 at 4:36 PM, iacas said:

I think that if you look at his body well after impact but not all the way to the end, you would probably agree that it looks pretty normal. So in this case what is happening is happening so far after impact I don't care too much. Maybe down the road but there are many more pressing issues. #prioritization

Yeah, I agree, I see what you mean. Thanks---

dunlucedreams

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so.............the answer for this particular golfer to resolve his 'too deep' hands/right arm behind shirt seem is effectively to turn more and earlier by A3, effectively meaning the arms and club cant get behind him ????

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  On 10/28/2015 at 6:31 PM, dunlucedreams said:

so.............the answer for this particular golfer to resolve his 'too deep' hands/right arm behind shirt seem is effectively to turn more and earlier by A3, effectively meaning the arms and club cant get behind him ????

For him, this is the first step. If his elbow still wants to go too far after this, we'll have to address that separately. This will quite likely improve it, but it may not improve it all the way to where it's not a problem at all.

dunlucedreams

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  On 10/29/2015 at 12:20 AM, iacas said:

For him, this is the first step. If his elbow still wants to go too far after this, we'll have to address that separately. This will quite likely improve it, but it may not improve it all the way to where it's not a problem at all.

Thanks for that, makes sense. personally i find it almost impossible to stop that right arm from sneaking back there. no amount of shortening the swing or conscious'putting up the umbrella' type of swing thoughts seem to stop it. i will be giving the bigger/earlier turn a go and see if that helps! thanks for sharing

 

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  On 10/29/2015 at 7:17 PM, dunlucedreams said:

Thanks for that, makes sense. personally i find it almost impossible to stop that right arm from sneaking back there. no amount of shortening the swing or conscious'putting up the umbrella' type of swing thoughts seem to stop it. i will be giving the bigger/earlier turn a go and see if that helps! thanks for sharing

Yeah, it's more about monitoring the position of the "pressure point" than just shortening the swing.

dunlucedreams

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  On 10/30/2015 at 12:39 AM, mvmac said:

Yeah, it's more about monitoring the position of the "pressure point" than just shortening the swing.

ahh i see got it 

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