what does spin milled mean

[obsessedgolfer]

i was just wondering what spinmilled ment and if it really makes a difference. come golf season i will be buying some wedges and i want all the equipment advantages i can get.

[Crafty]

Spin milled wedges are basically have a "roughed up" face that creates more friction, thus adding more spin to most wedge shots.

I have hit a spin milled wedge and will say that there was a considerable difference. However, you may not want to change to spin milled wedges if you spin the ball enough already.

[geezer]

The grooves are milled using a circular blade(I think), giving the wedges a sharper edge. You can tell if the wedge is spin milled by the fact that the ends of the grooves having a radius. You'll know what I mean by that when you see one.

[Crafty]

The grooves are milled using a circular blade(I think), giving the wedges a sharper edge. You can tell if the wedge is spin milled by the fact that the ends of the grooves having a radius. You'll know what I mean by that when you see one.

The way I understand it, spin milled wedges do not have different grooves than a regular wedge. The extra spin is the result of a rougher face. Thats just the way I thought it was, I could very well be wrong.

[Crafty]

Correction, you were right also Geezer. Titleist uses both a circular saw to cut the grooves along with the fact that they use CNC machining on the face to create micro edges.

Here it is form Titleist.
http://www.titleist.com/golfclubs/we...spinmilled.asp

Look at the third and fourth icons on the right.

[iacas]

The way I understand it, spin milled wedges do not have different grooves than a regular wedge. The extra spin is the result of a rougher face. Thats just the way I thought it was, I could very well be wrong.

Wrong

The grooves are milled using a circular blade(I think), giving the wedges a sharper edge. You can tell if the wedge is spin milled by the fact that the ends of the grooves having a radius. You'll know what I mean by that when you see one.

Right

The "mill marks" you see on the face of the spin-milled wedges aren't the part that's "spin milled." It has to do specifically with the actual grooves - their corner sharpness, their uniformity, their depth, width, etc. Spin-milled grooves are cut, as geezer said, using a circular blade. You can see the radius of the blade at the heel and toe edges of the grooves. Other grooves are often cut using a kind of router style rather than a spinning saw blade on its side.

[daniel2852]

Interesting. I own a Titleist Vokey design wedge(as any serious golfer should), but it is not spin milled. On the chipping green today I noticed that it gave me enough spin already, I don't think I need more. These types of designs might be better for lower handicap golfers I think?

[Mr. Desmond]

Originally Posted by obsessedgolfer

i was just wondering what spinmilled ment and if it really makes a difference. come golf season i will be buying some wedges and i want all the equipment advantages i can get.

I wouldn't get too caught up in spin milled - many wedges are cnc milled now - it helps with consistency and uniformity. Vokey Wedges are fine - I own a couple - but I bought them more for their sole grind and appearance since most makers try to maximize spin.

[ApocG10]

Originally Posted by iacas

Other grooves are often cut using a kind of router style rather than a spinning saw blade on its side.

Which, strangely enough, is the efiniteion of what milling is. They use a very small milling tool to cut the grooves at a high rpm with plenty of lube. That IS milling.

[ApocG10]

Originally Posted by Mr. Desmond

I wouldn't get too caught up in spin milled - many wedges are cnc milled now - it helps with consistency and uniformity. Vokey Wedges are fine - I own a couple - but I bought them more for their sole grind and appearance since most makers try to maximize spin.

A mill is a mill is a mill. Trying to make someone believe CNC is somehow better than conventional milling woulf mskr machinists froth aT THEe imotuth. The only thing CNC was mae for was replacing humans. A journeyman machinist can o anything a cnc mill can.

[Mr. Desmond]

Originally Posted by ApocG10

A mill is a mill is a mill. Trying to make someone believe CNC is somehow better than conventional milling woulf mskr machinists froth aT THEe imotuth. The oNELyi tthhing CNC WAESis REPELACE HUMANS.

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Let them froth.

But the statement above only said that many OEMs use cnc milling.

[ApocG10]

Sorry, had some keyboard problems.

[onesome]

Had a wilson 2010 brass putter head re-surfaced with a mill at the machine shop at my work, then went ahead and surface grounded it without me knowing and took away the milled cut lines. Didn't change the loft any and now it's a perfectly flat surfce until I ding it against something.

[kregan]

The grooves are more then likely cut with a "slitting saw blade" like this one.

http://www.use-enco.com/CGI/INSRIT?PARTPG=INSRAR2&PMAKA;=619-1185&PMPXNO;=16718934

[onesome]

The grooves are more then likely cut with a "slitting saw blade" like this one. [URL=http://www.use-enco.com/CGI/INSRIT?PARTPG=INSRAR2&PMAKA;=619-1185&PMPXNO;=16718934]http://www.use-enco.com/CGI/INSRIT?PARTPG=INSRAR2&PMAKA;=619-1185&PMPXNO;=16718934[/URL]

Probably not the piece probably goes in a spinning ” chuck” and then a bit is precisely set to a cutting depth, did I just describe a machinists lathe?

[ApocG10]

Originally Posted by kregan

The grooves are more then likely cut with a "slitting saw blade" like this one.

http://www.use-enco.com/CGI/INSRIT?PARTPG=INSRAR2&PMAKA;=619-1185&PMPXNO;=16718934

No, they are cut with a tool like this.  These ones have wide flutes, so they would be for soft metal like aluminum. But this is the kind of tool used in "Spin Milling", which is just milling, period. (Edit: Nevermind, just realized you are a machinist and know what these blades and tools are for)

My dad is a metallurgist and machinist, and has his own hobby shop now that he is retired. He could EASILY make a head identical to those of a vokey if he wanted. A talented machinist is an artist. All these fancy words are just selling points. 'Spin Milling' is older than most people here, by a long shot.

[ApocG10]

Originally Posted by onesome

Probably not the piece probably goes in a spinning ” chuck” and then a bit is precisely set to a cutting depth, did I just describe a machinists lathe?

Not quite, though yes, it could be done with a lathe, its just far easier with a milling machine. Especially CNC, since its just a matter of setting up the piece and zeroing the tool.

[iacas]

The grooves on spin milled wedges are actually cut with little saw blades. That's why the edges towards the toe and heel are rounded.