Length and Lie Angle

[Gonzo186]

I recently got fitted for some new irons and ended up buying a set of Callaway Mavriks. Being 6'3 I felt like my current standard length irons were on the short side as I found myself stooping over them and this was confirmed in my fitting, my new irons are an inch longer and also the lie angle has been changed by 3°. The difference was really noticeable straight away and I was hitting straighter and longer off the bat. 

My question is this... When buying a new driver and or woods (and even lob wedges) does the same rule for length and lie angle apply? I don't want to spend hundreds so looking at second hand but I obviously want them to be right for me. 

 

Any feedback welcome 😊

[knott]

Drivers you don´t rest on the ground ideally so there it shouldn´t matter much. Some drivers have adjustable hosels where you can change lie to experiment with but I don´t find that crucial like with irons. I am 187 cm have about 95 cm from wrists to floor and am quite fine with stock lengths on my fairway woods. You may feel you have to bend the knees a bit to much instead of bending over which can make it a bit harder to rotate possibly as it limits your motion. Try buy used locally so you can try how it works if you can hit it fine with the face square to the ground while still being enough upright. Longer shafts is harder to control for me so for me I rather bend the knee a little bit more then go for a touch longer shafts. I don´t have any real problem at setup with my woods. Run Ping G400 14.5 degree 3wood currently and used orlimar Trimetals 3 and 5wood before.

 

[Vinsk]

2 hours ago, Gonzo186 said:

I recently got fitted for some new irons and ended up buying a set of Callaway Mavriks. Being 6'3 I felt like my current standard length irons were on the short side as I found myself stooping over them and this was confirmed in my fitting, my new irons are an inch longer and also the lie angle has been changed by 3°. The difference was really noticeable straight away and I was hitting straighter and longer off the bat. 

My question is this... When buying a new driver and or woods (and even lob wedges) does the same rule for length and lie angle apply? I don't want to spend hundreds so looking at second hand but I obviously want them to be right for me. 

 

Any feedback welcome 😊

@Adam C can explain this for you.🙂

[Adam C]

6 hours ago, Gonzo186 said:

I recently got fitted for some new irons and ended up buying a set of Callaway Mavriks. Being 6'3 I felt like my current standard length irons were on the short side as I found myself stooping over them and this was confirmed in my fitting, my new irons are an inch longer and also the lie angle has been changed by 3°. The difference was really noticeable straight away and I was hitting straighter and longer off the bat. 

My question is this... When buying a new driver and or woods (and even lob wedges) does the same rule for length and lie angle apply? I don't want to spend hundreds so looking at second hand but I obviously want them to be right for me. 

 

Any feedback welcome 😊

Wedges you will most definitely want the same specs on. Longer lengths and adjusted lie angles, (although the amount of lie change may be different as many golfers prefer a slightly flatter lie angle on the wedges compared to the irons).

Driver is a different animal. Length is already long with any modern driver so extending them beyond the 45 1/2 inch standard or whatever the particular driver is wouldn't be advised. An adjustable hosel can change the lie angle some if needed but driver lie angle is usually less of a concern because of the lack of loft. Less loft = less direction change from lie angle issues. Fairway woods will also fall into this category as they have less loft to start with and are pretty long (static length) right off the rack.

[BeCu]

On 7/19/2020 at 3:41 AM, Gonzo186 said:

I recently got fitted for some new irons and ended up buying a set of Callaway Mavriks. Being 6'3 I felt like my current standard length irons were on the short side as I found myself stooping over them and this was confirmed in my fitting, my new irons are an inch longer and also the lie angle has been changed by 3°. The difference was really noticeable straight away and I was hitting straighter and longer off the bat. 

My question is this... When buying a new driver and or woods (and even lob wedges) does the same rule for length and lie angle apply? I don't want to spend hundreds so looking at second hand but I obviously want them to be right for me. 

 

Any feedback welcome 😊

Treat wedges in same regard as you did with the irons.

Regarding driver, I would demo/test different brands/good quality used ones and spend the time to find the one you hit the straightest the most consistent.

You most likely don't sole the driver to the ground like your irons, rather you hover the driver a little of the ground before beginning your back swing.

The things to look for during driver set up are the face angle (do like the club head to appear square/open/closed?). With your height you probably have no issues hitting the ball high, your athleticism most likely will determine the model you choose. Of course if you can get fit before buying that is just insurance you spent your $$ wisely as you'll get a driver that fits your swing dynamics. 

Regarding fairway woods, treat the same as driver, try to demo/test. Lie angle on fairway woods most likely not a variable to place primary focus. IMO, you need the ones that give you the desired launch and ball flight. Most taller golfers I know are conscious of face height of their woods. For example many fairway woods that have a shallow face height yield extreme high launch and can balloon for taller golfers that hit down on the ball (again good testing can prevent buying wrong model fw. The taller golfers I play with prefer med/to what is called deeper face height models as these produce lower-med launch angles and shot height. 

Bottom line agree with previous post. Just wanted to share my experiences from having friends around your height that I play golf with. Good luck. 

[Gonzo186]

Thanks for all of your help guys. I've bought a callaway xr driver and 3 wood which are a huge improvement on my previous clubs. 

I'm also in the market for a hybrid. I bought a second hand standard length cobra f7 hybrid and can't seem to hit the thing! Would I treat hybrids the same as my  irons/wedges - longer shaft and change of lie angle? Or is it more similar to a wood? 

[Adam C]

5 hours ago, Gonzo186 said:

Thanks for all of your help guys. I've bought a callaway xr driver and 3 wood which are a huge improvement on my previous clubs. 

I'm also in the market for a hybrid. I bought a second hand standard length cobra f7 hybrid and can't seem to hit the thing! Would I treat hybrids the same as my  irons/wedges - longer shaft and change of lie angle? Or is it more similar to a wood? 

It's a hybrid so it's really in between a wood and an iron. Length should be adjusted but only so far as to maintain your gapping distance with your other clubs. It will already most likely be longer than any iron so that it won't need much length if any. Lie again will have less impact on flight because of the lower loft. If you have an adjustable hosel hybrid, you could mess with it need be. If it's a bonded hosel, it's a pain to bend so you are just better off leaving it. 

Can also do a sharpie lie check and see if the lie is way off for any reason. If you don't know how that works you can watch this.