Increasing Weight EXS 220 Fairway

[daddyo33]

as a general rule of thumb, will changing the rear weight to a heavier weight make the club more forgiving, increase launch angle and increase spin. Is the tradeoff distance? any feedback would be appreciated. 

Edited January 4, 2021 by daddyo33
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[Adam C]

Yes it will move the CG back further which can increase the launch and spin and maybe makes it slightly more forgiving but in all three categories, we are talking about very very small changes that most people will never see.

Far bigger impact will be the change in static weight and swing weight. That will be what really decides what the result will be.

[daddyo33]

thank you!

[onthehunt526]

On 1/3/2021 at 8:30 PM, Adam C said:

Yes it will move the CG back further which can increase the launch and spin and maybe makes it slightly more forgiving but in all three categories, we are talking about very very small changes that most people will never see.

Far bigger impact will be the change in static weight and swing weight. That will be what really decides what the result will be.

Adam is right. It’s really negligible of any changes. You’d need a Trackman or GC Quad in order to notice a difference.

[ChetlovesMer]

On 1/3/2021 at 8:30 PM, Adam C said:

Yes it will move the CG back further which can increase the launch and spin and maybe makes it slightly more forgiving but in all three categories, we are talking about very very small changes that most people will never see.

Far bigger impact will be the change in static weight and swing weight. That will be what really decides what the result will be.

 

8 minutes ago, onthehunt526 said:

Adam is right. It’s really negligible of any changes. You’d need a Trackman or GC Quad in order to notice a difference.

 

About two years ago I did some testing with my own driver, 3 wood and a borrowed 5 wood on this very question. Now, granted it was me swinging the clubs not an Iron Byron, however, there WAS a difference that was measurable. It was about 200 rpm per club. A little more on the driver, a little less on the 5 wood. So, as the gentlemen above have said it makes a difference which can be measured. I walked away from the experience feeling like I would never really notice 200 rpm on the course. 

When I did the test I was expecting to see more difference. Perhaps if I could generate higher swing speed, or lower spin to begin with I might have seen more change. It was an interesting test, though. If you have access to a trackman or similar I recommend giving it a try. Personally, I love testing that kind of stuff and seeing what I get. 

[Adam C]

1 hour ago, ChetlovesMer said:

 

 

About two years ago I did some testing with my own driver, 3 wood and a borrowed 5 wood on this very question. Now, granted it was me swinging the clubs not an Iron Byron, however, there WAS a difference that was measurable. It was about 200 rpm per club. A little more on the driver, a little less on the 5 wood. So, as the gentlemen above have said it makes a difference which can be measured. I walked away from the experience feeling like I would never really notice 200 rpm on the course. 

When I did the test I was expecting to see more difference. Perhaps if I could generate higher swing speed, or lower spin to begin with I might have seen more change. It was an interesting test, though. If you have access to a trackman or similar I recommend giving it a try. Personally, I love testing that kind of stuff and seeing what I get. 

The question however is, was it the movement of CG that gave you the results you saw or was it the change in weight that impacted your swing sequencing and impact. If it was the first, then everyone should see similar results, if it was the second then the results will be individualized by golfer.

[ChetlovesMer]

5 hours ago, Adam C said:

The question however is, was it the movement of CG that gave you the results you saw or was it the change in weight that impacted your swing sequencing and impact. If it was the first, then everyone should see similar results, if it was the second then the results will be individualized by golfer.

I don't think the weight changed. As all I did was flip flop the front weight for the back weight. My driver for example has a 14 gram in the front and a 2 gram in the back. I flip flopped those so 14 gram was in the back. The over all weight of the driver remained the same. In the new set up I averaged a little more than 240 rpm difference then the way I normally play it. 

I did a similar thing with the 3 wood. Only in that case it was a 20 gram and a 3 gram. That seemed to make about 200 rpm difference. 

I don't have a 5 wood with the ability to adjust the weighting but another guy did so I ran the same test with that... I think it was about a 180 rpm difference, but I could be off on that. It wasn't my 5 wood so I didn't really care. 

In terms of everyone seeing the same results, I would think guys (or gals) who can swing faster would see more variation. ... perhaps the same percentage of spin change, but more actual rpm. But really I'm not sure. 

The other thing I was thinking is that my spin rate seems to be pretty high. 3000 or even more sometimes with the driver tends to be my normal. I was thinking if somebody could more closely match their dynamic loft to their launch angle they'd likely hit it with lower spin. So, perhaps people who hit it with lower spin might see less than 200 rpm difference? Again, I don't really know. I'm just speculating. 

[Adam C]

19 hours ago, ChetlovesMer said:

I don't think the weight changed. As all I did was flip flop the front weight for the back weight. My driver for example has a 14 gram in the front and a 2 gram in the back. I flip flopped those so 14 gram was in the back. The over all weight of the driver remained the same. In the new set up I averaged a little more than 240 rpm difference then the way I normally play it. 

I did a similar thing with the 3 wood. Only in that case it was a 20 gram and a 3 gram. That seemed to make about 200 rpm difference. 

I don't have a 5 wood with the ability to adjust the weighting but another guy did so I ran the same test with that... I think it was about a 180 rpm difference, but I could be off on that. It wasn't my 5 wood so I didn't really care. 

In terms of everyone seeing the same results, I would think guys (or gals) who can swing faster would see more variation. ... perhaps the same percentage of spin change, but more actual rpm. But really I'm not sure. 

The other thing I was thinking is that my spin rate seems to be pretty high. 3000 or even more sometimes with the driver tends to be my normal. I was thinking if somebody could more closely match their dynamic loft to their launch angle they'd likely hit it with lower spin. So, perhaps people who hit it with lower spin might see less than 200 rpm difference? Again, I don't really know. I'm just speculating. 

My bad. I read that as you were adding weight to the back with additional weight, not just moving the existing weight around. Same thing for my initial response to this thread. Not sure if OP was referring to adding or moving weight?