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Dustin Johnson and Collin Morikawa Discussing Hitting a Fade


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I found this video interesting from the standpoint of how they approach just playing the fade from game management. Even if they hit, what you would call a slice, they rather see that happen than have anything go left. 

Also, it is interesting that they both bow their wrist at the top, but both play a fade. I'd think that most would say they would draw or hook the ball with the clubface shut at the top. 

In terms of what they think about for the shot, it is hitting a start line because they know it is going to curve from right to left. I wonder how many amateurs think about starting the ball on a line. 

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Interesting how both are like I don’t know what a bowed wrist is. OK. Yeah that’s their natural wrist position pretty much their entire lives so that’s what top of the wrist positions feel like but I’m sure if someone asked them to reduce the flex a bit they could therefore they know what a bowed wrist is. I get what they implicitly mean I think when they say it. I think. 

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5 hours ago, saevel25 said:

I wonder how many amateurs think about starting the ball on a line. 

I think about my start line in every shot. Sometimes I even get it there.

But in all seriousness even when playing a push, I’m primarily concerned with where my ball starts. Almost have to be more concerned simply because my misses are huge.

1 hour ago, nevets88 said:

Interesting how both are like I don’t know what a bowed wrist is. OK. Yeah that’s their natural wrist position pretty much their entire lives so that’s what top of the wrist positions feel like but I’m sure if someone asked them to reduce the flex a bit they could therefore they know what a bowed wrist is. I get what they implicitly mean I think when they say it. I think. 

What I got out of that part of the conversation is that they don’t understand golf terminology and anatomical breakdown of the golf swing and they don’t care. Obviously it’s not needed to win major championships.

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